(May 2, 2014 at 12:09 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(May 2, 2014 at 11:43 am)Elskidor Wrote: Sound like the same thing to me, although I've never heard of an agnostic atheist.
You haven't been here long. Almoat all the atheists here are agnostic atheists.
(May 2, 2014 at 11:47 am)Napoléon Wrote: The first sentence isn't atheism. Period.
Sure it is. If you believe God doesn't exist, you're an atheist. It's just that people who would say that don't comprise the majority of atheists.
(May 2, 2014 at 11:35 am)Doggey75 Wrote: I don't claim to know if God exist or not. But I believe God does not exist.
I don't claim to known if God exist or not. But I don't believe God exist.
Am I just wording it wrong or are they the same thing? Can someone explain this to me?
It's a subtle difference. The person saying the first sentence holds it to be true that God does not exist. This is a stronger statement than the second one, which merely does not hold it to be true that God does exist.
I am not sure whether the practical difference between "I believe god does not exist" and "I do not believe god exists" more likely reflect the speech habits and state of the digestion of the speaker, or actual intended subtle difference in interpretation and meaning.