(May 5, 2014 at 3:09 pm)Lek Wrote:(May 4, 2014 at 2:18 am)Esquilax Wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, here we have exhibit A for how christianity turns you into a callous, infantile monster.
I'd like to reply to this and all the other scathing remarks about the above post. All I hear on this forum is how irrational christians are. Now this was a very rational statement and I get it for being callous. Christians believe in eternal life. If I die as an infant and I meet someone in heaven who died at 100 years old, I'm not going to be upset because he got to live longer than me. We both have eternity. In fact, I might be grateful that I died fast instead of suffering a long and painful death. If my kids died now, I would be devastated because I love them I'd miss them. In fact, I'll be devastated whenever they die. But I'd be happy to know that they're in heaven and living a joyous existence. To a christian life on earth is important, but it's only a minute part of our total existence.
As far as why God kills babies, all I said was my true thoughts. It's for the same reason he kills adults. Before mankind's sin, there was no death and afterwards there was death. Like I said, we don't know the mind of God. We're not allowed to murder and in fact we're commanded to love and care for our neighbors and even our enemies. We are to leave justice and vengeance to God and go on loving just as Jesus demonstrated.
Let's leave aside any talk of eternal life, for a moment. In fact, let's even grant the premise, and assume that heaven is real and all that. I don't care about any of that, and I didn't when I made my initial post either.
The problem I have here, the reason I feel that your religion has led you by the hand into a dereliction of your humanity and tricked you into thinking this is a good thing, is that there's a very real part of this situation that you are still shrugging off. A whole component of this issue that, as far as I can see, you don't even recognize exists.
It's this: you are considering a situation in which a child, an innocent, helpless child, is being subjected to lethal pain and suffering, and all you can think about is sin and how this is okay. You have expressed no empathy for that child, for the countless children toiling in unimaginable levels of suffering throughout all of human history, you don't even seem to understand that this is something worth empathizing with. It's needless suffering, after all; since the free will argument is null and void when it comes to infants there's no excuse for making them suffer in their final earthly moments, but that's what god does.
And you're okay with it. That's why I say you're a callous monster, and the fact that you didn't even know what I was talking about until I pointed it out just makes it worse.
GC Wrote:After a few weeks off I return to a place where the atheist have become more vile in their ways toward Christians. Hatred breeds hatred and I see it in action here, so you want proof of things here it is and if you do not believe this then you are truly blind.
If all we're doing is persecuting you, then fuck off and leave, you poor baby. Nobody is keeping you here, if it's so awful. The fact that you stay and come back is evidence enough that you're full of shit and just here to play pretend about being the victim.
Seriously, fucking leave. Nobody will miss you.
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