(May 6, 2014 at 1:34 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Perhaps, the atheist members would understand this frustration if Christians demanded denominational specificity. Do Frodo, Drich, GodsChild, Rondee, or I insist that everyone define Christianity as merely the belief that “Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior?” We share that essential belief, even if we disagree on particulars.
Christians also generally believe in the trinity, all believe in the Abrahamic God, all use The Bible, NT and OT as a Holy Text, and share various other beliefs. Reducing it to a single belief to equivocate with a nonbeliever's lack of belief is just silly.
I have yet to see a Christian on this forum object to the term, nor an atheist object to the term atheist: Unless the term is incorrectly defined, the atheists on atheist forums don't seem to have a problem with the label.
(May 6, 2014 at 1:34 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Sure, narrowly targeted terms like, antitheism, agnostic, agnostic atheism, gnostic atheism may be more accurate, but many times I feel I must avoid the word ‘atheists’ and write ontological naturalists, physical monists, or materialists just to make a point about something 90% of you believe anyway.
Why would anyone scientifically minded presuppose the existence of things lacking evidence? That doesn't seem to be a worldview that requires any support, in fact, the opposite is true.
(May 6, 2014 at 1:34 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: It’s awkward. Think about how frustrating it would be for atheist members if the Christians constantly objected to the use of the word ‘Christian’ as shorthand for the specific doctrines an atheist wanted to critique.
Again, this has more to do with those defining the word incorrectly in order to sneak in a presupposed conclusion.
(May 6, 2014 at 1:34 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Even still, I have to say that a small number of prominent atheists take advantage of the words ambiguity purely for debate.(If the shoe fits, wear it!) In one thread these sophists will take clearly antitheistic stances and on another thread retreat into agnostic atheism to avoid a critique that clearly applies to their brand of atheism. And that should piss off everyone, atheist and believer alike.
You're right, every atheist should be branded with a multiple-hyphen descriptor tag, whereas Christians get to refer to themselves as "Christian," and when you ask them what denomination, can say "Christian," a title which conveys the same amount of information as if they had announced their denomination is "Leather Shoes."