RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
May 7, 2014 at 10:09 am
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2014 at 10:11 am by MJ the Skeptical.)
(May 7, 2014 at 9:45 am)alpha male Wrote: FT is the god itself does not manifest in reality, but it's actions do. I noted this earlier. It's pretty simple and shouldn't be controversial. You're making knee-jerk defenses to a benign point.
"God D" is still God B though since action pretty much necessitates manifestation. If I wrote it incompletely in my OP, I apologize. Hope this clarifies it.
(May 7, 2014 at 9:45 am)alpha male Wrote: Actually it's because the Nobel prizes have specific categories and theology isn't one of them.
You would most certainly win any Nobel Prize or some prestigious title in Science for discovering a god to any degree.
(May 7, 2014 at 9:45 am)alpha male Wrote: No, I accept more types of evidence than you do.
If you accept things like personal experience or cherry-picking some religious documents, then I still accept more demonstrable evidence than you at face value. Gullibility is not a standard of evidence.
(May 7, 2014 at 9:45 am)alpha male Wrote: I claim your scenario is incomplete because it is, as I've demonstrated. Your "challenge" is rather ambiguous.
Honestly, I was only asking theists to differentiate between the two gods in my example, but if we add God D, I still don't see a differentiation between that one and God A, B or C in the current state of affairs in the universe.
(May 7, 2014 at 9:45 am)alpha male Wrote: I don't pretend. I examine criteria such as motivations which we alsu use to assess mundane claims.
Irrelevant. You still cherry-pick some religious claims and can't show why it's more credible than any other god claim. Like how you can't tell the difference between God B and God C because there is no way to tell the difference between them. And like I said, your God D addition would still be indistinguishable from God B or God C anyway. Unless you've got something to bring up.
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.