RE: Strong Atheism
May 8, 2014 at 12:41 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2014 at 12:53 pm by CapnAwesome.)
For a deistic God I am 6/7 and for all others I am a strong Atheist. But I think that it's important to note the difference between a 6 and a 7 is merely a philosophical one.
I think there is a difference between your made up off the top of your head god and a deistic one to which one prescribes no characteristics. I'm not saying that I'm a believer in either one, but to paint them as the same thing is short sighted. All of your points address Gods with a specific characteristics. So yes, I am a strong Atheist when it comes to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, The Trinity, Zeus. But what of a Deistic God that made life arise from non-life? I find such an entity extremely unlikely, but as long as people don't prescribe other characteristics to it, I can't say with 100% certainty that it doesn't exist.
(May 8, 2014 at 10:47 am)ThePinsir Wrote: Ok, I'm back.
The agnostic atheist approach certainly makes sense. I'm not denying that. Being a 6.99999/7 is a legitimate position. But...
What about things we know were fabricated. If you're a 6.999/7 for gods, would you also call yourself a 6.999/7 for Superman? We can trace the origins of Superman, we know Superman is a construct of the human imagination, etc. I think being a 7/7 for the existence of Superman is a perfectly logical position. We can take the burden of proof and run with it by citing the date of the first Superman comic, or whatever.
If I made up a deity in my mind right now, we'll call him the Dlonra, the god of bodybuilding. He's got amazing quad sweep, massive biceps peaks, and perfect symmetry. If you worship him and pray to him, you'll have better gains and place better in competitions. I admit, with this sentence, that I fabricated the god Dlonra (Arnold spelled backwards lol). He's completely fake. Surely you wouldn't consider yourself "agnostic" or a 6.9/7 for my bodybuilding god? Surely you'd make the positive assertion that Dlonra doesn't exist?(But maybe I'm wrong...).
Likewise, I think we can do the same with all gods, knowing that they're fabricated bs.
I think there is a difference between your made up off the top of your head god and a deistic one to which one prescribes no characteristics. I'm not saying that I'm a believer in either one, but to paint them as the same thing is short sighted. All of your points address Gods with a specific characteristics. So yes, I am a strong Atheist when it comes to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, The Trinity, Zeus. But what of a Deistic God that made life arise from non-life? I find such an entity extremely unlikely, but as long as people don't prescribe other characteristics to it, I can't say with 100% certainty that it doesn't exist.