Proving the Bible

[lordofgemini]

I meant how it came to existance. He clearly didn't read the entire thread.

I read the entire thread. The notion that there must have always been something seems reasonable. The notion that it was an ultra-complex, hyper-powerful and transcendentally intelligent being who decided after a (literal) eternity to start creating is simply less reasonable than the idea that perhaps the material of the universe itself has always been there, acted on by whatever natural forces may exist in those states. Maybe the universe expands and contracts on some timetable, or maybe it came into existence through a black hole in another one, part of a growing lattice of universes.

All we know is that the universe is here, and signs point to some kind of beginning, and those signs only point to god when we wedge him in there with no consideration of what that might imply. It is possible that the first act of creation was when a larval worm spun a cocoon around itself, billions of years after that first spark (accidental or otherwise) birthed the universe.

Yep its that bit that's the most confusing. That where the notion come that is time is itself a created entity and that being is not subjected to time itself. That Being is beyond time whether past present or future. Although I don't find such an idea anywhere in my belief(except for the absolute knowledge part) but it seems plausible.

The idea larval worm is fallacious. Why did it have to be a worm. Why did it even looked like that. Why was it even matter. If its matter where did it come from. The thing we take to be eternal is unlike anything.

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Oh and God is as simple as He can be. But our minds can not imagine it because we can only imagine what we see and relate to it. Our minds our limited. This is why Gods concept is hard to understand. Because he is not comparable to anything in anyway.