Proving the Bible

[Tonus]

I know you point is valid and acceptable. But you are still reffering to the first creative act. There is an eternity before that. All the things that lead to the first creative act cannot be ignored. And where did all those things come from. See we are inside a loop. We need something outside this loop of time and space.

Do we? What if the universe is an eternal, self-perpetuating construct?

Yes this debate comes after we accept that there is something eternal. This is an entire topic of understanding God.

But what if the universe is that eternal thing? What if it changes states when it runs out of energy and collapses on itself? Or perhaps each universe simply spawns more universes before it dies, and it's just an eternal chain of universes being formed?

Without evidence of god, I am free to imagine a universe that does not require her to exist. Our inability to comprehend eternity and the possibility that something exists outside of space and time makes just about any theory possible. And if history shows us anything, it's that we have come up with seemingly endless explanations for how a god, or gods, created everything we are aware of (which is to say, ancient men limited creation to their lands, then to the Earth, and so on).