RE: Proving the Bible
May 8, 2014 at 3:45 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2014 at 3:46 pm by Tonus.)
(May 8, 2014 at 3:23 pm)lordofgemini Wrote: You just brought us back to step one of this discussion.I think that's where we have been the whole time.
I am not presenting a claim about how the universe was formed, I am pointing out that any possibility is just as valid as god until we have sufficient evidence for god. As far as I am aware, at this time the best that theoretical physicists can do is make guesses about "how." It may be agonizing to not know for sure (or worse, not know at all) but if we try to soothe that need to know by inserting things that we cannot validate, it makes it more difficult to figure out what really did happen.
A simple example would be: what proof is there that there had to be a starting point outside of the universe? In other words, what proof is there that my imagined universe (which is simply a self-perpetuating machine) cannot be true?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
