Proving the Bible

[lordofgemini]

You just brought us back to step one of this discussion.

I think that's where we have been the whole time.

I am not presenting a claim about how the universe was formed, I am pointing out that any possibility is just as valid as god until we have sufficient evidence for god. As far as I am aware, at this time the best that theoretical physicists can do is make guesses about "how." It may be agonizing to not know for sure (or worse, not know at all) but if we try to soothe that need to know by inserting things that we cannot validate, it makes it more difficult to figure out what really did happen.

A simple example would be: what proof is there that there had to be a starting point outside of the universe? In other words, what proof is there that my imagined universe (which is simply a self-perpetuating machine) cannot be true?

Step one was universe cannot as itself be eternal. I went through all that, to prove there must be only one thing that can be eternal. Call it whatever u like. This is the evidence of God.
(apart from history that men came claiming to be prophets throughout the history till Prophet Muhammad. And they got scriptures that talk about many many things claiming to be from God e.g The Origins of the Universe, Clouds, Mountains, Deep Seas and Internal Waves, Seas and Rivers, Human Embryonic Development, The Cerebrum, who could claim all that)
And I dont want to discuss about religion BTW.

As for your theory is easily debunkable. Make any theory other then the existence of an eternal God it will be easily be debunkable.
Your universe itself is subject to time so there must be a start. How did it start. What was the first cause that it did even start leave alone perpetuate. You theory is still inside that logical loop, that leads us to nowhere. This itself is proof that your theory is wrong. There must be something that was always there. In the equation if the universe.