RE: Is atheism a belief system in someway?
May 10, 2014 at 10:22 am
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2014 at 10:34 am by BlackMason.)
(May 2, 2014 at 11:42 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: All you need to do to establish atheism is a belief system is to find two beliefs all atheists agree on because they're atheists.
Atheism is a belief like off is a TV channel or like not collecting stamps is a hobby. Sorry mate but atheism ain't a belief.
(May 2, 2014 at 11:47 am)Napoléon Wrote:(May 2, 2014 at 11:35 am)Doggey75 Wrote: I don't claim to know if God exist or not. But I believe God does not exist.
I don't claim to known if God exist or not. But I don't believe God exist.
Am I just wording it wrong or are they the same thing? Can someone explain this to me?
The first sentence isn't atheism. Period.
The second sentence doesn't need the word "But" in there.
I beg to differ. The first sentence is agnostic atheism.
Gnosticism and agnosticism are positions on belief. Being a gnostic is a claim to knowing and being an agnostic is the opposite, not knowing.
Atheism and theism are positions on belief. To be atheist is to not believe in the existence of deities and theism is the belief in them.
Gnosticism/Agnosticism and Atheism/Theism are not mutually exclusive. So you can get a gnostic atheist. The claim there is that the person knows that gods don't exist. I think this position is as irrational as theism.
The OP expresses a lack of knowledge in the beginning of both sentences. They are the same and amounts to agnosticism. The second part of the first sentence amounts to a disbelief in gods. This is atheism. The second sentence is consequentially the same although worded differently.
Result: Both sentences are agnostic atheism.
8000 years before Jesus, the Egyptian god Horus said, "I am the way, the truth, the life."
