RE: God lives within us faith.
May 10, 2014 at 7:28 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2014 at 7:39 pm by Mystic.)
(May 10, 2014 at 7:22 pm)Chad32 Wrote: They think that god showing himself would cause us all to instantly worship him, despite that not being shown in the bible.
I don't care too much about what the Bible shows, but my statement was regarding faith in God. I think God showing himself would make faith too easy. I don't mind faith eventually becoming that easy, but, I think, we need a time where we have a struggle with the self and try to find the divine sword among the false swords and hold on to his rope and see his guiding spirit. I think we can see God if we train our hearts to look towards the divine light and perceive his existence if we train ourselves to reflect.
This makes our relationship to God a more enriching choice.
(May 10, 2014 at 7:24 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:(May 10, 2014 at 7:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I would also add God existing within us in an imperfect way makes a diverse human experience which is more enriching if we are all infallibly guided in a perfect way with perfect access.
No.
A comfortable lie should never be more valued or preferred over the harsh truth of reality.
I agree on that notion. But in this case I think reality is that we are partially eternal and partially temporal, our beauty and greatness is eternally based but at the same time it's in the temporal world and finite, we are manifestations of both ourselves and the eternal (the divine). All praise is linked to his glory and is such that it is his. The world around us, even art, manifests an eternal consciousness, an eternal mind frame, an eternal logic, but we perceive it in semi-eternal temporal way.
I hope that isn't too confusing, but this is what I have found reality to be. I can't divorce God from reality because it seems everything is manifesting eternal/temporal reality which only makes sense with an absolute eternal creator.
It seems the need for eternal basis also makes all levels of possible creativity, beauty, glory, greatness, honour, all exist in some reality at an ultimate value.