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Possible explanation of supernatural religious visitations
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RE: Possible explanation of supernatural religious visitations
(May 12, 2014 at 3:50 pm)Chuck Wrote: I usually have issues with people trying to force innocent explanations for religious frauds when willful and cunning deceit seems more plausible and more consistent with human nature.

There's certainly deceit and fraud involved where organised religions are concerned but this doesn't alter the fact that the human brain produces odd, subjective experiences. I know this from personal experience because my own brain does it. Even though I'm an atheist who doesn't believe in the supernatural I've 'felt' presences and 'seen' ghosts along with a shadowy female form rising out of a moorland pond in Wales.

(May 12, 2014 at 3:50 pm)Chuck Wrote: 3. Mountains often have long standing association with spirits and the supernatural, dating to long before the alledged reception of revelations. So mountains lends a pre-fabricated air of mysticism to the fraud.

That article linking mountains with odd effects on the brain could explain why mountains have a long standing association with spirits and the supernatural. This made them ideal locations for fictional prophets to have so-called divine revelations.

It's likely that Shamanism was around long before there was anything like organised religion.

Quote:There are many variations of shamanism throughout the world, but several common beliefs are shared by all forms of shamanism. Common beliefs identified by Eliade (1972)[4] are the following:

Spirits exist and they play important roles both in individual lives and in human society.
The shaman can communicate with the spirit world.
Spirits can be benevolent or malevolent.
The shaman can treat sickness caused by malevolent spirits.
The shaman can employ trance inducing techniques to incite visionary ecstasy and go on vision quests.
The shaman's spirit can leave the body to enter the supernatural world to search for answers.
The shaman evokes animal images as spirit guides, omens, and message-bearers.
The shaman can perform other varied forms of divination, scry, throw bones/runes, and sometimes foretell of future events.

There are various techniques for entering a trance state. One of them is using Entheogens

Quote:An entheogen ("generating the divine within")[59] is a psychoactive substance used in a religious, shamanic, or spiritual context.[60] Entheogens have been used in a ritualized context for thousands of years; their religious significance is well established in anthropological and modern evidences. Examples of traditional entheogens include: peyote, psilocybin mushrooms, uncured tobacco, cannabis, ayahuasca, Salvia divinorum, Tabernanthe iboga, Ipomoea tricolor, and Amanita muscaria.

Way back in the dim and distant past early humans must have discovered some of these things by accident when gathering stuff to eat. They ended up going "Wow, the colours, man!" and interpreted it as visiting a spirit world.

Hypothesis On Origins

Quote:Shamanic practices may originate as early as the Paleolithic, predating all organized religions,[84][85] and certainly as early as the Neolithic period.[85] Early anthropologist studies theorise that shamanism developed as a magic practice to ensure a successful hunt or gathering of food. Evidence in caves and drawings on walls support indications that shamanism started during the Paleolithic era. One such picture featured a half-animal, with the face and legs of a man, with antlers and a tail of a stag.[86]

Archaeological evidence exists for Mesolithic shamanism. The oldest known Shaman grave in the world is located in the Czech Republic at Dolni Vestonice (National Geographic No 174 October 1988). This grave site was evidence of a female shaman.
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RE: Possible explanation of supernatural religious visitations - by Confused Ape - May 12, 2014 at 5:05 pm

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