(May 19, 2014 at 6:32 pm)BlackSwordsman Wrote: I have always been pro-life. My understanding is that no matter what the circumstances surrounding the pregnancy, bad or good, rape or not. That child that innocent baby had nothing to do with it. They are without blame, why place the blame of a rapist on a baby, wasn't that childs fault.
Rather shocking belief, I say. What's actually happening in that case is that your placing the blame on the woman that was RAPED by forcing her to have a child she neither asked for and one which was conceived by being violated in one of the most horrendous acts humans can do to another, short of murder. And you implicitly assert that the rights of the unborn trump that of the mother, which I think is generally an untenable position.
Quote:Why should it suffer?
Well short of, say, 22-24 weeks, it CAN'T suffer, not having even developed a functioning nervous system or (I think) consciousness. But a more socially relevant question is: Why should the mother suffer? Pregnancy's no walk in the park, and labor extremely painful.
Quote:There is always adoption. Don't want it, give it to someone who cannot have a child, who's spent a fortune on having kids without success.
Oh joy, go through the process of being pregnant and having a kid just to give it up to someone else. That's just an unreasonable burden to expect of anyone.
Quote:As a Buddhist, (moderately monastic) the view is that life begins at conception and all life is valuable.
Well, life does NOT begin at conception, I'm sorry to inform you. A fertilized egg is just as alive as, say, a sperm or an egg, but I doubt you think we should have legal protection for those entities. Otherwise, menstruation and male masturbation would have to be considered murder for the former and, well, genocide for the latter (no more blowjobs, sad to say...)
Quote:My dear kid brother, would not be here had his 12 year old mother aborted him. She had him, gave him up for adoption.
In doing so my mother and I have had the pleasure of having him in our lives (my adopted family could not have children)
This is a non sequitur and is really easy to show to be bollocks.
My mom and dad had sex with each other a little over 21 and a half years ago. If they hadn't had sex that night (or my sperm self hadn't won), I wouldn't have been born. Does that mean that it therefore would've been morally abominable if they DIDN'T have sex that fateful night? If you were consistent, the answer would be "yes", but I doubt you'd agree to that.
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