RE: Pro-life atheists
May 21, 2014 at 12:43 pm
(This post was last modified: May 21, 2014 at 12:57 pm by Losty.)
(May 21, 2014 at 8:28 am)Chad32 Wrote:(May 20, 2014 at 11:47 pm)Losty Wrote: By your own logic, a fetus by itself has no potential to be a person. Thanks have a nice day.
How did you get that from what Losty said? I mean yes, if left literally by itsself, a fetus will die. A baby would too. That's not what Losty meant, and you know it.
I am Losty so I'm assuming you meant Heywood. I know exactly what he meant. Maybe you're having a hard time understanding what I meant.
A baby and a car are on the same level. If you don't feed a baby it will die. If you don't give a car gas it will die.
A fetus and a tire are on the same level. A tire can never become a car on its own, a fetus can never become a baby in its own.
(May 21, 2014 at 11:26 am)Heywood Wrote:(May 21, 2014 at 2:25 am)Losty Wrote: My exact reason for saying person and not human being. Reading comprehension love
I already knew you were going to say that, that is why I didn't say human being. You see, to be a human being
Human- of human DNA
Being- a real or imaginary living creature
Easy
To be a person requires sentience.
I was going to comment on your reading comprehension but decided to refrain.....out of politeness. If you go back an look at our exchange you will see I made a point about "human beings"...then you tried to refute that point by talking about "persons". You are guilty of poor reading comprehension at best....or purposely changing the goal posts at worst.
Wait what?
You said a tire cannot be a car on its own.
A sperm cannot be a human being on its own.
I said by the same logic, a fetus cannot be a person on its own.
Tire->car
Sperm->human being
Fetus->person
I didn't change the goal posts. I took your logic and applied it to a different situation. I'm pretty sure the goal posts were abortion right?
I can take the same logic and say
An apple cannot be an orchard on its own.
This has nothing to do with goal posts. I was just taking your logic an applying it to a different situation. Where is your brain at today love?
Also on a side note, unlike the tire/car, fetus/person, and apple/orchard a sperm is just as much a human being as a fetus is. It meets the requirements.
Human-of human DNA
Being-a real or imaginary living creature
If a fetus is a human being, then a sperm is a human being. I don't know why our goal posts are human beings, though, if we are talking about abortion. I don't have any problem with killing Human Beings so long as they're not people.