RE: Pro-life atheists
May 22, 2014 at 12:38 pm
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2014 at 12:49 pm by Losty.)
(May 22, 2014 at 12:28 pm)Heywood Wrote:(May 22, 2014 at 11:20 am)Losty Wrote: Wrong. If you remove a fetus from the womb knowing that it has zero chance of survival that's an abortion Heywood.
What kind of doctor would induce labor on a woman who is barely clinging to life knowing full well that she's 18 weeks pregnant and there is no chance of survival for the fetus?
So further risk her life even though the fetus will die once removed from the womb? Makes perfect sense Heywood.
There is a difference between killing a fetus and then removing it from the womb and just removing the fetus from the womb.
If the pregnancy causes a threat to the mothers life. Remove the fetus from the womb and then take reasonable steps to save it. If the baby dies it died....but at least it wasn't killed. Abortion is the killing of other human beings. You advocate giving people the choice to kill other human beings. You are an evil morally repugnant person.
I was hoping you would say that. Did you know that 36% of 'abortions' before 9 weeks are labor induction abortions, meaning they just remove the fetus from the womb. They don't technically kill it.
Also, I would have to look it up, but I believe almost all late term (last week or so of second trimester and on) abortions are labor induction abortions unless the doctor believes another type of abortion is necessary.
You cannot hurt my feelings by insulting my morals Heywood. I know my morals are right, just as much as you know your morals are right. I do not believe it is ever immoral to kill a human being so long as that human being is not a person. I do not find killing human beings any less moral than killing any other being so long as that human being is not a person. I do not value human life over other forms of life. I do value people, but we aren't talking about people.
(May 22, 2014 at 12:28 pm)Heywood Wrote:(May 22, 2014 at 11:26 am)Losty Wrote: I already have. You are fucking delusional.
Negative, the option to deliver the baby early exist and is just as safe as an abortion. There is no need to kill the baby except so that you do not have to deal with it.
Negative,
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists: "Abortions are necessary in a number of circumstances to save the life of a woman or to preserve her health. Unfortunately, pregnancy is not a risk-free life event."
Erika Levi, an OBGYN at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill: "There are certain cases where ending the pregnancy is the only option, cases where it would be putting the mother's life at risk to continue the pregnancy," she says.
"When a pregnancy must be ended before a fetus is viable, the result is an abortion," says Vanessa Cullins, Vice President for External Medical Affairs for Planned Parenthood Federation of America. But she says there also are cases after viability in which an abortion is safer than an induced childbirth or surgical delivery.
Listen Heywood, I know you consider yourself an expert for whatever reason, but I do not value your professional opinion because it is not your profession and you have no idea what you're talking about.