(May 22, 2014 at 3:33 pm)Lek Wrote:(May 22, 2014 at 12:56 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Is Eve, from the Adam and Eve story, in hell right now?
She disobeyed god and started the whole sin trend in humans, so did god put her in an everlasting lake of fire?
If she repented, and god forgave and decided that he did want her to live with him forever why did he continue to expel her from his garden and continue to condemn her children?
If she is in hell, does she really deserve it? 6000 years of torture is a pretty stiff sentence served for unwittingly listening to another supreme being that you had no previous reasons to mistrust.
First of all, I'm not certain myself that hell is a place where people suffer for eternity. The bible is clear that there is a hell and it's a terrible place, but seems to speak more to eventual total destruction or to eventual repentance and salvation. Eternal suffering was the view taken by the catholic church, and is the most popular now, but not in the early days of christianity. Eve could be with God now, depending on her relationship with him when she died. Old testament believers were saved the same way we are - by Jesus' atoning sacrifice. They believed in the coming messiah. Many assume they waited in Sheol, the place where the Jews believed all good and bad people went after death, until the sacrifice was completed. I'd also like to say that Satan is not a supreme being. He only does that which God allows him to do. He has no power to enforce anything on us.
Right, so God allows Satan to continue to do evil.
Therefore God is not all good.