RE: Is Eve in Hell right now?
May 23, 2014 at 4:35 am
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2014 at 5:14 am by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(May 22, 2014 at 11:54 pm)Godschild Wrote:(May 22, 2014 at 6:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: In the final analysis, God punished Eve unjustly. She ate the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good And Evil. Even though God told her and her hubby not to eat this fruit, prior to eating it, they couldn't possibly have known that disobeying God was an evil act.
So, it doesn't much matter if Eve is in hell or not. Simply by visiting women with pain in childbirth and ejecting the couple from the Garden, God meted out punishment for what was, in Eve's mind, not a sin, not a crime, not an evil act - she simply lacked the requisite knowledge to know that what she was doing was wrong.
It is as if you told your teenage son that he has an 11:00 PM curfew, but you tell him in Mandarin, which he does not speak. He arrives home that night at 11:03 and you beat him with a stick, all the while shouting, 'I told you! I told you!' It doesn't matter whether you told him or not, when he has no way of knowing WHAT you told him.
This sort of thing makes me wonder if there's anything - anything at all - that the Bible got right.
Boru
All of God's punishments are just, an omniscient God could do nothing else.
Eve understood if she or Adam ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that death would result, she understood what death was and that it was a punishment, scripture makes that very clear. Many atheist say they do not believe she ans Adam did anything wrong, yet God found both of them hiding in the Garden, they both believed they were wrong in what they did. So her punishment was just.
GC
Actually, an omniscient God couldn't justly punish anyone at all. If God knows when and where sins are going to be committed (and he does, you just said so yourself) but metes out punishment AFTER the sin takes places, that isn't justice, it is simply some bizarre form of divine entrapment.
Adam and Eve knew what they had done was wrong, but only after the fact - they had no way to know right from wrong until after they committed the act (eating the fruit) for which they were punished. The sin they committed was what gave them the knowledge to know that what they had JUST done was a sin, they couldn't possibly have known beforehand, regardless of what God told them. If God were interested in justice, he would have let them off with a finding of 'diminished capacity'.
Boru
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