RE: Study:Strongly held incorrect beliefs often cannot be changed by disputing facts
May 23, 2014 at 8:27 am
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2014 at 8:48 am by Ksa.)
(May 22, 2014 at 8:43 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: One need only argue with one of our theists for a couple of posts to know that's true.
Anyone familiar with me knows I can be very recalcitrant, but both my political and religious opinions are nearly complete opposites over what they used to be. This wasn't accomplished by directly arguing with a person whose viewpoints were different, but by observing other people have the debate without me and seeing one side continuously describe reality better than the other.
You'll never change empty minds by engaging them directly, but someone else's mind might be changed by watching.
If you're taking about Zakir Naik, let me tell you a few words about that grease-ball cock sucker: Zakir Naik tells about 1 lie every minute and 1 scientifically incorrect statement every other minute. The debates were held in an Islamic setup and only poorly prepared christian pastors were brought forth purposefully. I know Ahmed Deedat debated a famous pastor but he didn't win the debate because the Qur'an was right, he won it because the Bible was wrong. Very different scenarios. Qur'an in one word is mitigation. The book is not written in a revelation style, it's written in "mitigate the mistakes" style. Ambiguous statements that mean 1,000 things each.
The Qur'an was written on the flaws of the Bible. It's like having a faulty instructions manual for a TV and I write another manual that's not about how the TV works, but about what's wrong in the other manual. Lets cut the crap, it doesn't exactly talk about how to use ammonia to fertilize the Earth, no insight on how to make antibiotics or anything useful to save human lives, no insights on the DNA molecule and it claims the Earth is the center of the universe. It also claims God made the Earth in 6 days. It also claims the light of the moon is its own light. That the sun rotates around the Earth (not around its own axis like that piece of shit states)
The concept of creator...is idiotic. Creation is an ongoing process, this post I make is also creation, because it didn't exist before, and now it does. Things evolve constantly, new animal species, new plants. Who is making them? If creation would have stopped on the 6th day, we would not notice it today. Creation is a process, not an awareness. It's like arylation or dealkylation in chemistry. It's, a process that is not aware and that is ongoing.