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Fate and Free will
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RE: Fate and Free will
(May 23, 2014 at 12:32 pm)LogicMaster Wrote: ..............

You're repeating yourself over and over, your whole point is : god is timeless , then he knows the future and thus our fate.

A verse from the Quran that disagrees with you :
“Verily, We have created all things with Qadar (Divine Preordainments of all things before their creation as written in the Book of Decrees Al‑Lawh Al‑Mahfooz)” [Al-Qamar 54:49]

Here it doesn't say that fate("Qadar") is the god being timeless , it says that fate("Qadar") is a thing that god used to create with .


Here is another verse where god says that "it is a BOOK" :
"No misfortune can happen on earth or in your souls but is recorded in a Decree before We bring it into existence! That is truly easy for Allah: In order that ye may not despair over matters that pass you by, nor exult over favors bestowed upon you. For Allah loves not any vainglorious boaster" [Hadid 22-23]

Btw, The word "Decree" is strangely translated this way from the word "Book" in the arabic version of the Quran .


PS: I'm not expecting my mother to answer all my question, as I said it was just a discussion .
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Messages In This Thread
Fate and Free will - by Marsellus Wallace - May 7, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: Fate and Free will - by Paraselene - May 7, 2014 at 11:13 pm
RE: Fate and Free will - by Elskidor - May 7, 2014 at 11:23 pm
RE: Fate and Free will - by LogicMaster - May 23, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Fate and Free will - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 23, 2014 at 12:50 pm
RE: Fate and Free will - by Marsellus Wallace - May 23, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Fate and Free will - by Cato - May 23, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: Fate and Free will - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 23, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: Fate and Free will - by ThePinsir - May 23, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Fate and Free will - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 23, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: Fate and Free will - by Marsellus Wallace - May 23, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: Fate and Free will - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 24, 2014 at 5:10 am
RE: Fate and Free will - by LogicMaster - May 25, 2014 at 8:14 am
RE: Fate and Free will - by Confused Ape - May 25, 2014 at 8:59 am
RE: Fate and Free will - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 25, 2014 at 9:00 am
RE: Fate and Free will - by bennyboy - May 25, 2014 at 1:26 pm

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