Religious "moderates" and atheists

[Mudhammam]

I'm conflating? You're the one who is asserting that my membership in a group makes me responsible for the acts of individuals in that group.

1) I never singled you out.
2) I never said you were responsible for anyone's actions.
3) If you're a member of a group that predominantly encourages the few problems I have mentioned, and you remain silent, do nothing, or feel no motivation to, then yes, you're part of the problem that is religious fundamentalism, not the solution. And if you speak out against the atheists (and moderates) who are speaking out and working against the fundamentalism that's born and nurtured in a major slice of religion's global pie, and also keeps much of the world in fear of Judgment Day, if you care about none of that--I question your capacity for compassion, and you probably should start doing so as well too.

And there are also systematic flaws associated with each.

If there are problems in my beliefs, I work to correct them. If you encourage apathy or shrug off the enormous suffering and suppression of the intellectual freedom that results from these "flaws," as you call them, and you happily claim membership without working for internal change, then yes, you're part of the problems that exist in a human psyche that often condemns the world instead of working to save it.

i Feel free to elaborate on what fundamental doctrines of Hinduism, Buddhism, and Shintoism you are referring to so that I may respond to your implicit claim that it is the fundamental doctrines of religion that are responsible for the bad acts of those within these faiths.

I never mentioned any of those religions. I'm primarily speaking about the big three monotheistic religions because I know those are harmful. My first seventeen years on earth were spent under the suppression of Christianity. And I'm somewhat familiar with Islam and Judaism, having read on them to some extent, so that's where I'm coming from. Buddhism doesn't seem so bad.

This is fucking weak. First you imply that I have a positive duty to criticize and condemn other Hindus, and when pressed on the matter, it becomes an argument that I have a negative duty not to participate in bad acts such as defending bad actors, associating with them, or defending corrupt doctrines. Your goalposts are moving.

Huh? No, you DEFINITELY have a "positive duty" if you want to engage in rational debate about how to move mankind forward.

My suspicion is that these are your concerns, not mine, but you want to make me responsible for your concerns by painting me with a very broad brush.

Uhhhh... yeah, YA THINK? And make you responsible? Yeah, ya know, were kinda in this whole life on earth thing together. Let me repeat: LIFE ON EARTH.

Again you're conflating the acts of individuals with those of a group. Since I'm Hindu, not Christian, I'll leave this rant where it fell — far from the point.

Who exactly are you talking to? I don't see any irrelevancy between this and anything I've said.

Again, I think you want to make me responsible for what is your concern by linking me to Hinduism globally with a weak "guilt by association" argument. I fail to see how any of the shit you mention is my problem as a religious moderate.

Wow. Maybe pick up a fucking newspaper and look for anything mentioning religion. Tell me what you read.

Dipshit.