RE: Is Eve in Hell right now?
May 26, 2014 at 3:34 am
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2014 at 3:37 am by Godscreated.)
(May 24, 2014 at 9:20 am)Confused Ape Wrote:(May 24, 2014 at 7:17 am)Godschild Wrote: Simple answer to this, who says God cursed more than the serpent that tempted Eve, God created Lucifer. I do not believe that snakes eat the dust of the ground anymore than a legless lizard. The curse was on one legged creature, no more and no less.
GC
So you're saying that the serpent in Eden was actually Lucifer and real snakes in Eden were already without legs? Does that mean Lucifer/Satan has slithered around like a snake ever since he was cursed? If so, why mention snakes in the Genesis account? After all, it would have made more sense to say that Eve was deceived by a fallen angel.
Confused.
I'll try to clear things up, first of all I do not know if snakes were in the Garden or not. The Genesis account mentions serpent, not snake and no plural was ever given to the serpent. Now the word nachash was used to describe the serpent not because of the physical appearance, but because of the sound (hissing sound or a whisper) which also refers to an enchanter. The scriptures point to the serpent being an enchanter. As far as the punishment of crawling around, it may represent a punishment on Lucifer that reduced him to the lowest of stature. Remember Lucifer was the greatest of the created angels and to reduce him to the lowest of lows would be befitting, God may have been showing him exactly the power that He has. Throughout the rest of scriptures we see that Lucifer has no more power than God allows him, God has placed man above him, that must have outraged him.
GC
(May 26, 2014 at 3:15 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The term "Garden of Eden" was the popular term used to describe the Assyrian/Babylonian Empire. In fact, Eden was a town in what's today Iraq.
The first thing people should get through their thick skulls is that the Bible is simply a collection of ethnocentric Jewish religious fairy tales that's been spun to give them special status. There's no invisible (or visible) celestial supernatural God character who has a band of winged angels. The stories are comparable to the other ancient ethnocentric myths from Egypt, Greece, Rome, India, Persia, and elsewhere. If you don't believe in those deities why do you believe in the Bible's? They are all nonsense!
Because the Garden of Eden existed long before any of those countries.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.