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Is Eve in Hell right now?
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RE: Is Eve in Hell right now?
(May 26, 2014 at 3:34 am)Godschild Wrote: I'll try to clear things up, first of all I do not know if snakes were in the Garden or not. The Genesis account mentions serpent, not snake and no plural was ever given to the serpent.

In my earlier post I linked to a dictionary where it says that serpent is another word for snake.

(May 26, 2014 at 3:34 am)Godschild Wrote: As far as the punishment of crawling around, it may represent a punishment on Lucifer that reduced him to the lowest of stature.

Throughout the rest of scriptures we see that Lucifer has no more power than God allows him, God has placed man above him, that must have outraged him.

Can't resist saying this but Lucifer must have had a hissy fit. Tongue

Who are Lucifer's descendants supposed to be, though? And why, if the serpent was really Lucifer, did the writers of Genesis deliberately confuse the account by not saying that he was an angel?

After a couple of hours looking up different views of what the serpent's meant to be, it's obvious that it's whatever people want it to be. Christians who want Eve to have been tempted by Lucifer will find ways of interpreting the text to fit their views. I'm going to finish this post with an article from the Jewish Virtual Library - Paradise

The Serpent

Quote:The text is at pains to point out the creatureliness of the serpent, describing it as one "of all the wild beasts that the Lord God had made" (3:1, 14); it is distinguished from the other beasts only by its shrewdness (3:1). Its insignificance is underlined in 3:9–19, where God interrogates Adam and Eve, and both respond, while the serpent is not questioned and does not respond. In view of the prominent role played by serpents in ancient Near Eastern religion and mythology this treatment of the serpent amounts to desecration and demythologization, quite possibly intentional. As a result, the source of evil is denied divine or even demonic status: evil is no independent principle in the cosmos, but stems from the behavior and attitudes of God's creatures.

From early times the serpent has been seen as a symbol, whose meaning is widely debated. Some have stressed the serpent's well-known phallic symbolism and fertility associations, taking the narrative to reflect an attitude toward human sexuality, fertility cults, and the like. Others see the serpent as representing man's own shrewdness. Since in ancient Near Eastern mythology the forces of chaos which oppose the forces of creation and cosmos are widely represented as serpents, many see the serpent here, too, as a personification of the forces of chaos. According to this view, disobeying God undermines the cosmic order. Alternatively, the serpent may represent ethical evil in general, a meaning that serpentine mythological motifs are given elsewhere in the Bible (e.g., Isa. 26:21–27:1).

The bolded bit makes sense to me because religious humans have often taken a negative attitude towards other religions' deities. A modern example is some Christians saying that the Horned God of Wicca is the Christian Devil.
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