RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
May 26, 2014 at 10:24 am
(May 24, 2014 at 10:36 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(May 24, 2014 at 6:23 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: Yeeaaah, my post had absolutely nothing to do with the multiverse hypothesis. I was merely accusing the theistic explanation of circularity.so he must be stating that one universe with a zillion chances to get it wrong, and one chance to get right; and it just happened that one chance came up which would mean time, space, energy, matter and the 4 forces of nature: strong, electromagnetic, weak, and gravity hit the right combination. okay, go with that then.
Why would a god necessarily want to make humans? Because the god thinks like humans do.
Why must the god think like a human? Because otherwise the god wouldn't have made people.
How do you know there were a zillion chances to get it wrong? Strong fine-tuning is based on a thought experiment: that the cosmological contents could have been different from each other, that none of their values depend on the value of any other, and that they could vary widely. None of that is known. All it is based on is that we don't know that none of that is true. In other words, it's an argument from ignorance. You can't realistically get any odds when only one result is known. Multiple universes aren't needed to explain something there's no actual evidence for. Multiple universes entered into scientific discourse for entirely separate reasons, they weren't invented to 'explain' strong fine-tuning, it was already lying around as a concept suggested by evidence and math.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.