(May 27, 2014 at 3:12 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:(May 27, 2014 at 3:03 pm)Heywood Wrote: I abhor all abortions....exceptions are not needed to justify my position. I know that some abortion are unavoidable secondary effects in the treatment of medical conditions(like ectopic pregnancies). However I am unconvinced a baby has to be killed or that option has to be the first chosen in late term abortions as was done in Ms Kellogs case. Dilate the woman further, let the baby be born alive. If it dies, well that is a sad fact of nature. To kill it on the basis it is not likely to survive is abhorrent.
This is why talking to people who only know how to deal in absolutes is pointless.
Isn't it true, Heywood, that no matter what anyone else here states, you will steadfastly stick to your guns thus ensuring there is absolutely no point in further discussion?
I doubt very much that someone here could convince me that a zygote or embryo is not a human being....that would be like trying to convince me the earth doesn't revolve around the sun. Some facts are only disputed by the incredulous ones.
Now could someone convince me that humanity is better off because we allow abortions....that it is a net good for humanity? Maybe but I suppose a case could be made that humanity is better off that the Native Americans were slaughtered.
Could someone make the case that there is nothing immoral about killing another human being for matters of convenience(as in the case of the vast majority of abortions)...I doubt that too.
Last, I am pretty sure the pro-abortion folks are just as steadfast in their convictions as I am.