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Is Eve in Hell right now?
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RE: Is Eve in Hell right now?
(May 27, 2014 at 10:26 pm)Godschild Wrote: You need to bring proof.

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Here's something interesting I discovered about God on the Judaism 101 website.

Judaism 101 - The Nature of G-d

Quote:G-d is the Creator of Everything

Everything in the universe was created by G-d and only by G-d. Judaism completely rejects the dualistic notion that evil was created by Satan or some other deity. All comes from G-d. As Isaiah said , "I am the L-rd, and there is none else. I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil. I am the L-rd, that does all these things." (Is. 45:6-7).

I checked it out and that's what the King James and American Standard say. Other translations have variation on - "I make well-being, I create woe".

When I looked into this further I found a interpretation on the Christian Apologetics And Research Ministry website - Does God Create Evil?

The author uses a translation which says - "Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these," (Isaiah 45:5-7). The article goes on to say that God creates natural disasters, not moral evil.

Outreach Judaism has a different perspective.

Quote:Outreach Judaism is an international organization that responds directly to the issues raised by missionaries and cults, by exploring Judaism in contradistinction to fundamentalist Christianity.

Who Is Satan?

Quote:“See, I [God] have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil.” (Deuteronomy 30:15)

When describing God’s creation plan, the prophet Isaiah reports that the Almighty created evil in the world:

“I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I the Lord do all these things.” (Isaiah 45:7)

I did not invent these verses, nor did I tamper with them. In fact, the Bible I used in the above quotations is the King James Version, a translation that could hardly be construed as friendly to the Jewish faith.

These edifying verses underscore the fundamental biblical teaching of the Almighty’s divine sovereign plan, which provides that every searching soul must confront evil, as well as good, in order to remain vigilant in one’s personal search for perfect spiritual balance. The Almighty’s gift of freewill to humanity is what separates us from His other creations. For those committed to attaining a higher spiritual existence, the struggle toward a life of virtue is only possible with the existence of evil, which serves as a spiritual counterweight. In other words, righteousness cannot exist unless man is free to choose or reject evil.

Satan isn't a fallen angel in Judaism.

Quote:Passages in Tanach like Isaiah 45:7 and Deuteronomy 30:15 pose a monumental theological problem for Christians who maintain that God did not create Satan, the angel of evil. According to Christian doctrine, as you state in your question, Satan was the highest-ranking angel who, through his own act of spiritual defiance and outright disobedience, became the chief adversary and slanderer of God, and the embodiment of evil in this world. As you maintained in your question, God never created evil according Christian teachings; He is only the author of righteousness and perfection. Therefore, God could never create something as sinister as the devil himself. Rather, Satan’s unyielding wickedness is the result of his own spiritual rebellion.

Although this well-known Christian doctrine has much in common with the pagan Zoroastrian Persian dualism from which it spawned, it is completely alien to the teachings of the Jewish Scriptures. In fact, this Christian notion that Satan, in an act of outright defiance, ceased to function as God had intended him to, suggests that God created something imperfect or defective.

For the Jewish faith, Satan’s purpose in seducing man away from God poses no problem because Satan is only an agent of God. As a servant of the Almighty, Satan faithfully carries out the divine will of his Creator as he does in all his tasks.
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Is Eve in Hell right now? - by Brakeman - May 22, 2014 at 12:56 pm
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RE: Is Eve in Hell right now? - by Godschild - May 23, 2014 at 12:30 pm
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RE: Is Eve in Hell right now? - by Godschild - May 23, 2014 at 12:21 am
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