It seems the forum is almost split over Daystar's ban. I don't want this to seem like a dictatorship when the mods simply rule and whatever they said goes, so here is a chance to discuss the ban on Daystar.
I've copied the reasons suggested by a staff member (no names) why we should ban Daystar:
Daystar was originally banned for a month for the above behaviour as it was anti-social and went completely against what debate forums should be. I've said multiple times before, that I'm fine with people throwing the occasional insult, as long as they personally face the consequences (in the debate environment) of doing it. We don't ban people for simply insulting someone, but we will ban them if they get completely out of order and start throwing insults at every single person who opposes them. This forum promotes civil discussion, and trolling is forbidden (as it is by most forums).
Some people may object and said that it is free speech, but I severely doubt any of you would like to continue in a forum where people are allowed to shout and curse and generally act immature all the time. We have limits on free speech in the real world, such as hate speech, and so we should have limits on forum free speech, such as in the case where it becomes apparent that the person you are debating has no interest in hearing any other side of the argument and simply spouts their own view repeatedly.
Daystar's ban was increased to permanent status due to his direct attack on the forums. He created a second account whilst banned (which is against the rules since it is counter to the ban), and proceeded to spam the PM system. Some of you are probably against a permanent ban, but would you really like to let a person back in who has so much respect for these forums that he willingly spams every member on it? There are not many forums out there where this punishment would even be reconsidered, due to the nature of the crime and the fact that it was a really immature and moronic thing to do.
So here is your chance to discuss the ban. We have three options:
1) Keep the permanent ban.
2) Reduce the ban to a month.
3) Unban him.
I've copied the reasons suggested by a staff member (no names) why we should ban Daystar:
Quote:1) DayStar is an individual who believes he carries the only valid opinion.
2) This leads him to personally attack those who disagree.
3) In some cases, he wishes to upset and offend other members of the forum, in which case he can be called a troll.
4) Most often however, he leaves angry or insulting messages.
5) This forum is for debate and the exchange of ideas, however, DayStar seems to be on a mission to force his naive bible based opinions on everyone else and will not concede a single point. Therefore his presence here is pointless, counter productive and is also driving some of our members to distraction.
I also believe that a warning or some form of probation would have either a negative effect or none whatsoever!
He started off well but these past weeks he seems to have become a typical, bible bashing creationist who considers anyone that challenges him a delusional idiot.
Daystar was originally banned for a month for the above behaviour as it was anti-social and went completely against what debate forums should be. I've said multiple times before, that I'm fine with people throwing the occasional insult, as long as they personally face the consequences (in the debate environment) of doing it. We don't ban people for simply insulting someone, but we will ban them if they get completely out of order and start throwing insults at every single person who opposes them. This forum promotes civil discussion, and trolling is forbidden (as it is by most forums).
Some people may object and said that it is free speech, but I severely doubt any of you would like to continue in a forum where people are allowed to shout and curse and generally act immature all the time. We have limits on free speech in the real world, such as hate speech, and so we should have limits on forum free speech, such as in the case where it becomes apparent that the person you are debating has no interest in hearing any other side of the argument and simply spouts their own view repeatedly.
Daystar's ban was increased to permanent status due to his direct attack on the forums. He created a second account whilst banned (which is against the rules since it is counter to the ban), and proceeded to spam the PM system. Some of you are probably against a permanent ban, but would you really like to let a person back in who has so much respect for these forums that he willingly spams every member on it? There are not many forums out there where this punishment would even be reconsidered, due to the nature of the crime and the fact that it was a really immature and moronic thing to do.
So here is your chance to discuss the ban. We have three options:
1) Keep the permanent ban.
2) Reduce the ban to a month.
3) Unban him.
