(May 28, 2014 at 11:50 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:(May 28, 2014 at 10:53 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
Apparently you're confused. You realize that the "Son of man" is the one speaking right?
So when he says "There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." He is speaking of John.
Nope. Not confused at all since I read, write and speak English fluently. "some standing here" is clearly plural, not singular as you would have us believe. Hes not speaking of one but of a group. A subset of a larger group, but still a group. "There is one here among you" would give weight to your apologetic bullshit. Unfortunately for you and your argument, that's not what he (allegedly) said.
It's actually amazing the number of different explanations I've heard to try to wish away this very damning bit of text. Your god-boy is claiming that some of the people he's addressing will continue to live until he returns, bringing the kingdom of gawd with him. It is such an utter failure that it's hard to conceive of one greater. Most people would give up on someone who's 2000 seconds late. Gotta grant you faithers are a tenacious bunch.
Besides, even if your claim were corrrect, John never "saw a new heaven and a new earth." He was speaking of a vision. In plain words, he was relating a hallucination.
(May 28, 2014 at 11:35 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Was John standing there? Yes.Irrelevant. See above.
(May 28, 2014 at 11:35 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Did John see his coming? Yes.No, he didn't. Again, see above.
(May 28, 2014 at 11:18 pm)Brakeman Wrote: No one agrees with your apologetic twisting.
Including many of his fellow christers.
Here is the definition of some
some
səm/
determiner
determiner: some
1. an unspecified amount or number of.
"I made some money running errands"
2. used to refer to someone or something that is unknown or unspecified.
"she married some newspaper magnate twice her age"
Tell me again how fluent you are in English.