you have to have faith..and there's a purpose

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RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose

May 30, 2014 at 10:03 am

(May 29, 2014 at 7:52 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: We don't really use the right words in English to communicate dramatically different concepts. Faith and faith are as dissimilar as the truth and Truth. Beliefs are of radically different qualities, from completely irrational to justified. A lot of people exploit this without realizing they're being intellectually dishonest, and people are really good at compartmentalizing. I can't tell you the number of Comparative Religions classes I've sat through where at least 2-3 students would get livid pissed and walk out.

Yeah, this is the same principle used by the "Ray Charles is God" argument.

God is love
Love is blind
Ray Charles is blind
Ray Charles is God.

The fault in that argument involves equivocating various uses of the word "is", similarly to what your friend is doing with "faith". As her if she buys the Ray Charles is God argument and see if you can get her to see the flaw in her reasoning.

Also, even if her rationale were correct that "we all have faith in something", it doesn't follow that you should have faith in her particular brand of nonfalsifiable woo.

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you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by k2490 - May 29, 2014 at 7:48 pm

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by Rampant.A.I. - May 29, 2014 at 7:52 pm

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by RobbyPants - May 30, 2014 at 10:03 am

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by CherishSin - May 30, 2014 at 10:17 am

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by k2490 - May 30, 2014 at 11:57 am

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by JuliaL - May 30, 2014 at 11:28 am

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by FreeTony - May 30, 2014 at 11:43 am

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2014 at 12:03 pm

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by Ksa - May 30, 2014 at 1:35 pm

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by Cyberman - May 30, 2014 at 2:58 pm

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by k2490 - May 31, 2014 at 10:34 pm

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 30, 2014 at 4:17 pm

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by Cyberman - May 30, 2014 at 4:25 pm

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2014 at 4:40 pm

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by ThomM - June 1, 2014 at 7:12 pm

RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by Cato - June 1, 2014 at 7:20 pm

Re: RE: you have to have faith..and there's a purpose - by KUSA - June 1, 2014 at 8:04 pm

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