(May 29, 2014 at 9:05 pm)k2490 Wrote: In yet another talk what was brought to the table was...
"God doesn't make bad things happen,that's the Devil,but God allows it to make you grow and test your faith."
any refutations? mine were...
Why is it that when good things happen you attribute it to God,but when not it's the devil? because who created the Devil in the first place?
The fact that God(an all knowing being) needs to test someone when it's clear he'd know the answer..makes no sense to me.
The problem with the statement that a "god" does not make bad things happen is the it has a FUNDAMENTAL FLAW - among monotheistic religions.
IF there is only ONE with the power of creation - only one god - then the god had to have created everything = good, bad, and evil.
If the god did not create evil -= then where did it come from? IS there another with the power of creation?
There are PLENTY of problems with the claims of religion. Another example going with what you said about an all knowing god.
If a god ALWAYS knew EVERYTHING that would happen - then there is only ONE possible "choice" for every situation - the one the god already knows. No one can actually have free will - because it would have to include the power to choose something the god DID not know. ONLY one option is not free choice - it is simply a requirement.
And of course - if the god is all knowing - it knows everything IT will do -- and IT cannot do anything except what it knows as well.
