The System The Republicunts Think is so Great

[Creed of Heresy]

Whenever some dumbfuck says "do you want a government bureaucrat getting involved in your health care!" (Almost always said at the top of their lungs as if loud bullshit automatically becomes true.) I think of situations like this and reply "yes, indeed. Better some salaried government bureaucrat than some ignorant twit working for the insurance company and trying to pad their bonuses by fucking me over."

Sounds like you're describing the government bureaucrats who are running the VA. Scamming the system to pad their bonuses at the expense of ailing and dying veterans. Crooked government twits.

We've been over this. Except when we went over it, you stopped addressing my points when I buried your right-wing sound-bites under facts and opted to instead address the stuff you could more readily engage from other posters.

Running and hiding from posts and then surfacing again in another topic you know I will be lurking in. Tisk tisk. Someone's a glutton for punishment.

I have seen Tri-care/CHAMPUS, a government health insurance program, deny claims because they were not medically necessary on multiple occasions. God forbid getting your claims paid under Tri-Care if you're the rare male that comes down with breast cancer.

Big Government Bureaucracy....they are a bunch of miserable fucks too.....but the democunts seem to love them.

Ah ah ah, no no no, you know the rules of how to have your claims taken seriously; provide citations or links. Hitchens say: What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. And I don't accept hearsay.

To address what flimsy assertion is here all the same, however (I love busting peoples' balls when I'm in a foul mood and highly sleep deprived), what claims were denied based on them not being medically necessary? I mean, all you said was that you've seen it happen. For what, men's breast cancer? I hate to tell ya this, chief, but it's little wonder it's not covered: Less than 1% of all breast cancer cases happen in men. It's such a rare condition that the treatment options are not covered. 2,360 men develop it yearly. I imagine that the amount of men who have Tricare and get breast cancer, well...core of the planet-low numbers. I highly doubt any other insurance provider would cover treatment, either. Wanna know why? Due to the rarity of breast cancer in men, doctors have been unable to effectively test treatment options and results. In other words, treatment is, officially, unknown, and again, I highly doubt any private healthcare "insurance provider" (and I use those words loosely to describe all those useless dishonorable unethical corporate buttsluts) would be so kind as to pay for it, either.

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/breastcance...neral-info

Most of the information about treating male breast cancer comes from doctors' experience with treating female breast cancer. Because so few men have breast cancer, it is hard for doctors to study the treatment of male breast cancer patients separately in clinical trials.

Point me in the direction of a company that DOES cover breast cancer in men, and I'll concede that point, at least. That said, you're comparing a really rare type of cancer, the treatment of which is so far not backed by clinical trials to show efficacy, to a guy having lung cancer that spread all over his body and, in his lungs, there was a tumor the size of a baseball, and on top of that his lungs were filling with fluid, which would have killed him within the day. There's a difference between being unsure if the treatment is even going to be effective and therefore refusing to provide coverage for it, and simply refusing to treat someone when you know the treatment is effective, simply because you're basically death-paneling him to line your pockets.

The sad thing is, you and AT both seem to be defending the guys who want to refuse to pay for the guy who is obviously in dire, desperate need of coverage despite him paying for what should OBVIOUSLY AND CLEARLY be covered.

You're grasping at straws, the both of you. Put some sustenance into your reasons for bitching and whining and moaning about those evil socialist programs that cost you a nickel a year in taxes to pay your part into it, or get back down on your knees, wrap your lips around that big meaty corporate cock, and get back to sucking.

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Most claims are paid by Tricare without a hitch. The same is true for Anthem.

BULL FUCKING HORSE SHIT YOU FUCKING LIAR/IGNORANT DOPE!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthem_Blue...g_benefits

In 2007, the California Department of Managed Health Care (DMHC), a California state regulatory agency, investigated the company's policies for revoking (rescinding) health care insurance policies. The DMHC randomly selected 90 instances in which the company canceled the insurance of policy holders after diagnoses with costly or life-threatening illnesses, to determine how many cancellations were legally justified. The agency concluded that Anthem Blue Cross lacked legal grounds for canceling policies in every single instance. "In all 90 files, there was no evidence (that Blue Cross), before rescinding coverage, investigated or established that the applicant's omission/misrepresentation was willful," the DMHC report said.

UHM. So. They RANDOMLY SELECTED...hang on, lemme get this straight...they randomly...RANDOMLY...selected 90 cases of Anthem rescinding health-care coverage upon their customers being diagnosed with costly and/or terminal illnesses...and EVERY. SINGLE. LAST. ONE. OF THE 90 RANDOMLY SELECTED CASES. WAS LEGALLY UNJUSTIFIABLE.



Just quit. Throw in the towel on this debate. There is no fucking way in hell you can sit there and lie through your teeth that Anthem pays out most of their claims when they have a history of rescinding care for expensive and/or terminally ill patients' coverage at a rate that is basically 100%.

Oh and then there's the whole thing where over the course of a year they literally doubled the cost of health-care for their policy holders, while lying through their teeth saying it was to keep up with costs when their rate increases were four times higher than the medical inflation rate...I like that one... And then they justify it by saying there's a "death spiral." Well, given how often they rescind policies for policy holders who are terminally ill, I really don't see the justification! And apparently neither did the senate!

They pay out reliably... Pay out my fucking ass!