RE: The System The Republicunts Think is so Great
June 2, 2014 at 2:19 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2014 at 2:59 pm by Creed of Heresy.)
(June 2, 2014 at 9:48 am)A Theist Wrote:(June 2, 2014 at 2:11 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: We've been over this. Except when we went over it, you stopped addressing my points when I buried your right-wing sound-bites under facts and opted to instead address the stuff you could more readily engage from other posters.
Running and hiding from posts and then surfacing again in another topic you know I will be lurking in. Tisk tisk. Someone's a glutton for punishment.
Your username should be 'Creed of Bullshit' because that's all your points are. It's pointless to keep addressing your repeating the left-wing Tu quoque diversions of, deflecting blame to the Republicans, talking points that you heard somewhere on television or read from a left-leaning article. There's no running and hiding from you. There's just no use in continuing to argue a point with a dedicated and programmed leftist when your response is always, ignore or deny there's a problem if it reflects badly on barack and the democrats, and respond with, "What about the Republicans?!" "Look what the Republicans did!"
As far back as 2008 Barack knew there were problems within the VA. In his first bid for a presidential run Barack promised that he would fix those problems and take care of our Veterans. During the first two years of his first term as president Barack and the dems had control of the White House and of Congress. Why didn't he do anything meaningful then? He was too busy pushing obamacare in his first term to give a damn about anything else. Only to the left does it make sense to continue throwing money at a problem without first addressing and cleaning up the corruption.
Tisk tisk...your only arguments are ignore, deny, and deflect.
As I said before: I addressed all of this. I'm not the one who is bullshitting if you're the one who went silent the moment I broke your argument into pieces. The evidence is there for anyone who wants to read it. For anyone who hasn't yet (please see the thread in this same section of the forums regarding the VA "scandal" and please notice how after I address every single one of AT's points, he stops responding to me), to summarize; AT is focused on the plant of the weed and willfully ignoring the root of the problem. He claims Obama did nothing in 2008. He did. It was called a funding reworking, and had the VA attempt to reduce wait times by moving everything to an electronic system so as to better organize patient claims and address wait times at facilities more effectively:
http://www.louisville.va.gov/news/va_acc...hments.asp
Several VA administrators found a way around this by keeping paper records instead, so that they could still keep track of their patients, but not show just how badly their facilities were performing. A few individuals came forwards and said it was happening. The (republican) congress then took over a week to issue a "Do not destroy" order on ALL records the VA facilities hold...plenty of time for the VA admins to destroy quite a bit of evidence. I do not blame the republicans entirely on this, despite AT's victim complex thinking I am, but I AM saying they sure as hell didn't handle this mess any better, for all their squawking about what a travesty this is. They keep all saying it's a scandal. 40 veterans died waiting. If all those records were electronically maintained, would they still have received treatment? Well, no, because, again, the republican congress voted against increasing the VA's budget several times, and in fact cut it down mere months ago...and AT keeps putting his fingers in his ears screaming "LALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU" when I bring up that shortly after this budget cut, which immediately resulted in care provision and coverage being cut for veterans, 22 VETERANS A DAY COMMIT SUICIDE RATHER THAN SUFFER WITHOUT CARE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ALLEVIATED IF THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS HAD SIMPLY INCREASED THE VA'S BUDGET TO BUILD MORE FACILITIES AND HIRE MORE FUCKING STAFF INSTEAD OF FUCKING CUTTING IT AND IF THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS HADN'T BLOCKED THAT EVIL SOCIALIST BERNIE SANDERS' PROPOSED LEGISLATION TO INCREASE FUNDING TO BUILD MORE FUCKING FACILITIES AND INCREASE STANDARDS OF CARE.
There. Stop ignoring it. You literally have to be blind to not see this.
I don't want to hear another peep out of you about this, AT. Until you adequately address what I said before, and what I have had to say YET AGAIN, your bitching about this scandal is small fucking potatoes to what the party you slavishly devote yourself to is guilty of. THAT is why I don't seem to care all that much about the VA "scandal." SMALL. TIME. CRAP. COMPARED. TO. THE. CAUSE. OF. THE. REAL. FUCKING. PROBLEM. Do I have to keep fucking spelling it out for you? I'm getting tired of trying to get you to break out of your tunnel vision and look at the broader issue. You can call me a liberal all you want [I'm a socialist; that is to say, I think that virtually nothing our government does is adequate or satisfactory and needs improvement in just about every way imaginable for the betterment of the population and the country as a whole] to try to vindicate your paranoia of me supposedly just hating on the republicans, but here's the thing, if the republicans weren't the cause of the greater issue regarding the VA, I wouldn't be bitching about them; I'd be bitching about the ones who ARE responsible.
http://blog.timesunion.com/lawrencewhite...rage/1471/
Oh yeah, FYI? That article was written by a veteran himself.