(June 8, 2014 at 2:28 pm)rasetsu Wrote: You're equivocating.
No, that's what you're doing by comparing this with Loki at all: Loki commands the people to kneel after a clear show of force, while holding a weapon, in a threatening manner, representing clear duress. The question being asked is whether one would obey an order from god, with the format and presentation of that order recalling the story of Abraham and Isaac from the bible, a story where no duress was used.
You're equivocating by accusing the atheists here of faux bravado that wouldn't hold up in the face of an actual threat, in a thread where we aren't talking about being threatened. In fact, the OP specifies that this would just be a message you get in your head, and so I think my question stands: can't you see a difference between being commanded to do something by a weapon wielding supernatural agent ala Loki, versus simply being told to do something in a neutral setting by a similar agent?
Because, to be clear, I don't think the question has much to do with our supposed courage under duress anyway. I read it as concerning our morals generally, and whether we'd be willing to perform an action that we'd ordinarily consider heinous because it was directed by a supposedly superior moral source.
Godschild Wrote:Someone said that the Christians would dodge the question by saying God would not ask that of us. Well call it a dodge if you like but, I know my God well enough to know He would not ask that of Christians, I know that through trust and faith. This is why I can live a very comfortable and reasonable life with God, I know He is smarter than the atheist here that think God would ask us such. I do not have to worry about such silly and unreasonable things atheist pull out of their butts.
The reason it's a dodge has nothing to do with the feasibility of the hypothetical itself, but the fact that "he wouldn't do that," doesn't address the point of the issue. The question wasn't about god, it's about you, the person being asked: the important part isn't "would god actually do this?" it's "how far astray from what you understand your morals to be would you go, if directed to by your ultimate authority figure?"
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