Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?

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What proof do you have that Issac was mentally scared, the scriptures showed he trusted God and Abraham.

Well gee, if your dad took you as a child and was about to kill you in the name of god, that wouldn't be even a little bit frightening to you?

There you go again throwing out hypothetical delusions that have nothing to do with my life, like I said I have no fear of God ever asking anyone to do such a thing because I know Him well enough to understand He want.

I don't have proof beyond the simple logic of the scenario, because I don't think the story actually took place, but if you were willing to look beyond your presuppositions and actually think about how human beings react to things, you'd understand.

If you were to look past the end of your biased nose, you would see that Christians do not even consider that God would ask such. These kind of things come from the ignorance of non believers.
I understand what the story says, and Issac goes through the rest of his life without any negative effects from the experience, you do not understand what trusting God means, so how do you even believe you can speak for those who do.

Unfortunately, stripping away your own biases is just something you don't do, is it?

It's not me who has bias problems, I rely on God's truth and it has worked out just fine for many years.

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The only dodgy things going on here are the atheist dodging reality, to try and make up some kind of big deal out of a hypothetical, which has nothing to do with real life.

GC

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Don't you think the story actually happened?

I know it did.

What you're basically saying with your "god wouldn't say that!" dodge is that you'd fail the Abraham test if god tried it on you today. And I read before your nonsense "oh, Abraham knew what god was doing ahead of time" crap, and I'd certainly like to know where that is present in the text,

No, and it is ridiculous for you to even say so, you're getting desperate for an argument. Like I told you the answer is in scripture but it resides in many places in the OT and NT, I'm not posting something that is so long you or no one will read it, I promised myself after being told atheist were not interested in my long but necessary posts, that I wouldn't trouble myself or them. Can you understand this little quote from Abraham, "God will Provide."

but more importantly, how does the parable actually work, if that's true? The whole story is about having faith in god even to the point of sacrificing something precious to him; how does that story even function if, as you claim, Abraham had some idea of what was going on before he went ahead with it?

You're undercutting the central premise of the narrative.

The stories about Abraham's faith that God will provide and his trust that God would not go back on His promise of this son. Yes Abraham was taking Issac all the way because he knew God was faithful in His promise. If you do not think Abraham had faith that his son would not be a sacrifice, then explain why he told the servant that went with them to the mountain, we will return, not I but, we. I've not undercut anything the entire stories about faith and righteousness not sacrifice, this is apparently something you can't see.

GC

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Seriously, GC, I can't believe you still spout this bullshit. We're mostly atheists here at the... ATHEIST Forum. None of what you said above means anything to atheists. Who do you think your preaching is going to benefit?

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Oh, and to answer the OP: I have no idea. I have no kids and no plans for them in the future, so it's hard to grasp that hypothetical.

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But they LOVE to get in their little threats of their imaginary torment, even when they know we don't believe in that bullshit.

Of course, where he accuses us of not understanding the context of their scripture he demonstrates a distinct ignorance of what atheism means.

I know what atheism means, you do not believe there's a God or any god. However that doesn't make it true, it's no more than a belief you have.

GC

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These verses are not a commandment to kill someone, it is a warning to those like you, if you cause people to lose their faith it would be better for you to live no longer. Because your punishment in hell will be worse than by living on and continuing on the same path. You need to become more aware of what the scriptures actually say. After you have quoted scripture this wrongly you will not be able to use the ignorance defense on judgement day.

GC

Seriously, GC, I can't believe you still spout this bullshit. We're mostly atheists here at the... ATHEIST Forum. None of what you said above means anything to atheists. Who do you think your preaching is going to benefit?

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Oh, and to answer the OP: I have no idea. I have no kids and no plans for them in the future, so it's hard to grasp that hypothetical.

I do not expect you to listen, so that eliminate preaching, one preaches to those he expects to listen, I'm stating facts and it would be remiss of me to leave them out.

GC