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Gnostic Atheism? WTF?
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RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF?
(June 10, 2014 at 9:30 am)ThePinsir Wrote: Secondly, it is not impossible to prove a negative. If something can logically not exist, you can prove it doesn't exist. For example, I can make the positive claim "There is no such thing as a triangle with 5 sides". Such a thing is logically impossible. Likewise, I think I can make the claim "There is no such thing as a perfect, loving, omniscient deity who would allow people to be tortured forever and ever".

You can make such a claim, but you would be logically incorrect. Not because there is a god, but because you can't know for sure that there is NOT a god. Also, you do like most people and misinterpret God entirely. God is not simply allowing people to be tortured forever and ever. Hell, according to Judeo-Christian teaching, is this:

God is the source of all good. Anything good in this world is from God. Anything evil is the result of man's separation from God through sin. In the end, there are two places. Heaven, where God resides, and Hell, where God is not. Obviously, if that place is entirely cut off from God, there will be no good there. The reason that people wind up in hell is because they held onto there evil nature. Evil is like antimatter, good is like matter. God has so much good in him, it will completely destroy any evil with which it comes into contact. This is why people in the bible weren't allowed to look at the Face of God, because they would die. It's not that God is trying to kill or torture anyone. If they would just get rid of their evil nature they would be able to dwell with Him, instead of apart from Him.
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Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by JimmyNeutron - June 9, 2014 at 7:47 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by DeistPaladin - June 9, 2014 at 7:51 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by RobbyPants - June 10, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Thumpalumpacus - June 9, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Mudhammam - June 10, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Thumpalumpacus - June 12, 2014 at 11:33 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Jackalope - June 9, 2014 at 8:08 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Ryantology - June 10, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Clueless Morgan - June 10, 2014 at 8:29 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Ryantology - June 10, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by rexbeccarox - June 9, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by JimmyNeutron - June 9, 2014 at 9:48 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by rexbeccarox - June 9, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by CapnAwesome - June 9, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Mister Agenda - June 10, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by ThePinsir - June 10, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by DeistPaladin - June 10, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Mister Agenda - June 12, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Ravenshire - June 9, 2014 at 9:57 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Thumpalumpacus - June 10, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by One Above All - June 11, 2014 at 2:36 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Thumpalumpacus - June 11, 2014 at 7:05 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by One Above All - June 12, 2014 at 3:54 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Thumpalumpacus - June 12, 2014 at 8:53 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by One Above All - June 13, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Thumpalumpacus - June 13, 2014 at 11:38 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by archangle - June 13, 2014 at 8:05 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Tonus - June 13, 2014 at 9:09 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by SteelCurtain - June 9, 2014 at 10:40 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by vorlon13 - June 9, 2014 at 11:11 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Sejanus - June 10, 2014 at 12:27 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by ThePinsir - June 10, 2014 at 9:30 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by DeistPaladin - June 10, 2014 at 9:38 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by ThePinsir - June 10, 2014 at 9:45 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Mister Agenda - June 10, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by ThePinsir - June 10, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by One Above All - June 10, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by RobbyPants - June 10, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by DeistPaladin - June 10, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Clueless Morgan - June 10, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by JimmyNeutron - June 10, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Cato - June 10, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by ThePinsir - June 10, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by DeistPaladin - June 10, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by ThePinsir - June 10, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by DeistPaladin - June 10, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Tonus - June 10, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Ravenshire - June 13, 2014 at 1:54 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Bob Kelso - June 10, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Whateverist - June 10, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Clueless Morgan - June 10, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Angrboda - June 10, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by One Above All - June 10, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Whateverist - June 10, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by One Above All - June 10, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Tonus - June 10, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Mr Greene - June 10, 2014 at 5:24 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Ryantology - June 11, 2014 at 3:45 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by archangle - June 11, 2014 at 8:03 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Whateverist - June 11, 2014 at 6:41 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by BlackMason - June 12, 2014 at 4:36 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by archangle - June 12, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Tonus - June 12, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by The Grand Nudger - June 12, 2014 at 10:22 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by The Grand Nudger - June 12, 2014 at 9:28 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by The Grand Nudger - June 13, 2014 at 8:49 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by The Grand Nudger - June 13, 2014 at 9:16 am
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Clueless Morgan - June 13, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by The Grand Nudger - June 13, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Jackalope - June 13, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by The Grand Nudger - June 13, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: Gnostic Atheism? WTF? - by Ravenshire - June 13, 2014 at 2:58 pm

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