Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?

[Bob Kelso]

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There you go again throwing out hypothetical delusions that have nothing to do with my life, like I said I have no fear of God ever asking anyone to do such a thing because I know Him well enough to understand He want.

GC, quit being overly literal: I was asking you to employ what us normal humans call "empathy" and place yourself in Isaac's shoes.

If you were to look past the end of your biased nose, you would see that Christians do not even consider that God would ask such. These kind of things come from the ignorance of non believers.
I understand what the story says, and Issac goes through the rest of his life without any negative effects from the experience, you do not understand what trusting God means, so how do you even believe you can speak for those who do.

Great, so the story is an unrealistic mess with bad characterization. Now that we've got that established, would you accept that, for a child, being threatened with murder is a frightening act?

It's not me who has bias problems, I rely on God's truth and it has worked out just fine for many years.

Except that it's turned you into an intractable douchebag without a shred of empathy in you. If that's fine to you, then so be it.

I know it did.

Once again you abuse the word "knowledge." Knowledge is demonstrated, not merely asserted. You believe it happened, but you can't know anything you have no evidence for.

No, and it is ridiculous for you to even say so, you're getting desperate for an argument. Like I told you the answer is in scripture but it resides in many places in the OT and NT, I'm not posting something that is so long you or no one will read it, I promised myself after being told atheist were not interested in my long but necessary posts, that I wouldn't trouble myself or them. Can you understand this little quote from Abraham, "God will Provide."

So basically, you refuse to support any of your assertions? Can anyone say "rule one violation"?

Why should I care, then? You bugged me for proof earlier, and now you won't provide any? Hypocrisy, much?

The stories about Abraham's faith that God will provide and his trust that God would not go back on His promise of this son. Yes Abraham was taking Issac all the way because he knew God was faithful in His promise. If you do not think Abraham had faith that his son would not be a sacrifice, then explain why he told the servant that went with them to the mountain, we will return, not I but, we. I've not undercut anything the entire stories about faith and righteousness not sacrifice, this is apparently something you can't see.

GC

So, to be clear: you don't think that Abraham might be lying, because his son was present and to speak of returning by himself might be seen as ominous? Or that the two guys he brought with him might find what he planned to do to be somewhat messed up? Or that it's a translation error?

The whole point of the story is that Abraham was willing to sacrifice Isaac, that he was "a god-fearing man, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son, from me." He might have had faith that the lord would provide, but the thing that's exalted in the story as a noble act was Abraham's willingness to go all the way. If you remove that motivation from the story by saying he figured god would hook him up in the end, then everything the angel says to him at the climax of the tale makes no sense, it'd just be an elaborate game of make believe.

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Oh, look at that, another post that rammed logic up GC's ass and he ignores it yet again. Huh, interesting, it's... it's almost like a pattern.