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Poll: Would you sacrifice your child if God told you to?
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Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
(June 10, 2014 at 4:11 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(June 9, 2014 at 10:00 pm)Godschild Wrote:


GC, quit being overly literal: I was asking you to employ what us normal humans call "empathy" and place yourself in Isaac's shoes. Dodgy


You're the one who brought up the idea of my dad and me, if you wanted me to put myself in Issac's place you should have said so. Issac never indicates he has a problem with the situation, you need to prove he did before making a claim that he was scared for life.

GC Wrote:If you were to look past the end of your biased nose, you would see that Christians do not even consider that God would ask such. These kind of things come from the ignorance of non believers.
I understand what the story says, and Issac goes through the rest of his life without any negative effects from the experience, you do not understand what trusting God means, so how do you even believe you can speak for those who do.

Quote:Great, so the story is an unrealistic mess with bad characterization. Now that we've got that established, would you accept that, for a child, being threatened with murder is a frightening act?

I didn't say that, it's all part of your delusional idea to misrepresent scripture. So, nothing is established that comes from that deluded mind of your's. Issac wasn't threatened with murder, God as creator has the right to take the life of any of His creations. Besides in the story Issac shows no doubt of his part in this action between him, his father and God.

GC Wrote:It's not me who has bias problems, I rely on God's truth and it has worked out just fine for many years.

Quote:Except that it's turned you into an intractable douchebag without a shred of empathy in you. If that's fine to you, then so be it. Rolleyes

You have no idea as to who I am and what I do, you are a judgmental person that claims Christians are the only ones who judge, double standard me thinks. You judge unjustly making you the one with no empathy for others.

GC Wrote:I know it did.

Quote:Once again you abuse the word "knowledge." Knowledge is demonstrated, not merely asserted. You believe it happened, but you can't know anything you have no evidence for.

Just because you refuse to believe doesn't make what I know untrue, your biased opinions are worthless.

GC Wrote:


Quote:So basically, you refuse to support any of your assertions? Can anyone say "rule one violation"? Dodgy

No, I did not say that either and, it's not a violation when one is told it want be read. I bet you think your cute using all those little icons, just shows how inadequate you are.

Quote:Why should I care, then? You bugged me for proof earlier, and now you won't provide any? Hypocrisy, much?

Where's your proof, pot calling the kettle black me thinks.

GC Wrote:


Quote:So, to be clear: you don't think that Abraham might be lying, because his son was present and to speak of returning by himself might be seen as ominous? Or that the two guys he brought with him might find what he planned to do to be somewhat messed up? Or that it's a translation error? Dodgy

Yes let's be clear that you're interjecting your opinion into the story to change the story to suit your purpose, a purpose of delusional hypothesis that has no place in real life, it's not Christians who are living deluded lives through what you call fairy tales, it's people like you who delude themselves with hypothetical lives.
Abraham told Issac that God would provide the sacrifice and God did, Abraham knew God had a perfect plan and was willing to follow it to see what God's desire was, and he found out what God wanted because of his trust and faith.

Quote:The whole point of the story is that Abraham was willing to sacrifice Isaac, that he was "a god-fearing man, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son, from me." He might have had faith that the lord would provide, but the thing that's exalted in the story as a noble act was Abraham's willingness to go all the way. If you remove that motivation from the story by saying he figured god would hook him up in the end, then everything the angel says to him at the climax of the tale makes no sense, it'd just be an elaborate game of make believe.

If Abraham did go through with the sacrifice, he would have done it knowing God would have raised Issac from death, the promise of the nation was going to continue through Issac and Abraham knew this, his faith in God's justice was complete. Do you really think that an omniscient God would need to put Abraham through this to know what he would do, this was for Abraham and to show future generations he was worthy to be the father of this nation God was building.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to? - by Godschild - June 10, 2014 at 2:45 pm

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