(May 3, 2010 at 1:02 pm)tavarish Wrote:For me, yes.(May 3, 2010 at 12:33 pm)Watson Wrote: It's my old friend tavarish! YES!
No, not because I lacked an explanation, I had plenty of them actually. But because God and His nature*, as I was coming to understand it, made more sense than any other explanation anyone or anything could offer me.
*Not just goddidit, stop generalizing for the sake of easy contention.
So because it made more sense to you, that made it true?
Quote:Creationists also make this case - it's harder to study a field and learn about many intricacies of a subject than to just believe a guy talking about a holy book and say Magicmandunit.It's also easier to say "There is nothing to this world here that I can't study with my human tools and my human mind" than to observe the world and say "Maybe there are things my human mind is just not big enough to comprehend."
Quote:There are lots of unanswered questions in the universe and lots of answers that are difficult and often cold and heartless. This does not make God real.
I agree.
Quote:I can't understand how things "make sense" to you when you apply "God" to the scenario. To me, it's just the opposite! When you take "God" out of the equation, things make perfect sense!And this, I'm afraid, comes from a very ingrained inability to accept or pin responsibility on yourself or those around you. God is loving and perfect, you don't seem to comprehend this. He created this world and He filled it with His children, and He gave His children options to take. The choices themselves are up to us.
Quote:Why would a "loving, just and all-powerful" deity allow a child to suffer with cancer and die? It makes NO SENSE! But if you remove "God" from the scenario, it makes PERFECT SENSE! Children suffer with cancer and die because a certain percentage of children will die from all sorts of diseases.A loving diety that created the entire universe? He would know better than you do, actually. He would know what lessons the child could learn from that disease or that problem, and would not interfere when nature took it's natural course and strickened the child. No, God did not 'give' the child cancer, the child was just subjected to natural laws and ended up with cancer. Deal with the cards your dealt.
Quote:Why would a "loving, just and all-powerful" deity allow an earthquake to devestate an area, killing thousands of people and leaving many more homeless? It makes NO SENSE! But if you take "God" out of the scenario, it makes PERFECT SENSE! Earthquakes happen because of the movement of tectonic plates, and these plates have been in motion since the continents were formed.Again, I know you don't believe, but think about it. If an all-powerful, perfectly loving God existed, He would know better than you. And He would be waiting for those thousands dead with open arms when their mortal bodies are shed and their souls go to Him. It is the sweetest kind of redemption for such a tragic end that I can think of.
As for those homeless? They are lucky they still have a life to live and to breathe, so that they may have the opportunity to enjoy themselves in whatever way possible. You seem to forget there's an entire universe out there away from our societal constructs. Who's to say a man can't leave a disaster area all on his own and find a new home, somewhere far off, more at one with nature?
You know, like Buddha...?
Quote:Why would a "loving, just and all-powerful" deity allow a child to be born with horrible birth defects? It makes NO SENSE! But if you take "God" out of the scenario, it makes PERFECT SENSE! Babies are born with horrible birth defects because a certain percentage of pregnancies will result in children being born with Down's Syndrome, spina bifida, cerbral palsy, etc.....Again, see the first answer about cancer.
Quote:It is "God" that makes no sense in every case.I disagree whole-heartedly. It is man and nature which makes no sense sometimes.