(May 4, 2010 at 2:47 pm)tavarish Wrote:Why not? So a conceptual apple and a physical apple can't exist at the same time? If that were the case, then aren't you implying the moment a thought comes into our mind, the physical apple ceases to exist, or vice-versa?(May 4, 2010 at 2:35 pm)Watson Wrote: Wrong. I can think of an apple that literally exists- it is conceptual in my mind, physical in reality. Similarly, in my mind the apple can be a metaphor for something else, but I acknowledge that physically it is another thing entirely.
And how the hell am I wrong for saying:
[the] apple can't exist as a physical entity and a concept at the same time
Quote:The physical apple and the concept of the apple in your understanding are not one and the same.
No, but I change my mental concept of the apple to fit the physical reality. However, to me subjectively, the apple is representative of something completely not an apple.
I see what you're saying. My concept of the universe as a metaphor for God does not a metaphor for God the universe make. However, then we get down to intent; can we look at the universe and give it a conscious intention of metaphor? My answer would be yes, yours would likely be no.
Quote:What happened to 'question everything'?(May 4, 2010 at 2:35 pm)Watson Wrote: @EvF: God is actually quite simple, so I would contend your argument that He must be complex.
Yes, A being that willed the universe into existence is simple. Who cares if it raises way more questions than explanations?

Quote:See above.(May 4, 2010 at 2:35 pm)Watson Wrote: And, my evidence that God literally exists comes with my understanding of the metaphor- the metaphor's existance is proof of the literal existance, being that the literal is the universe, life, love, and everything here, all of which is a metaphor for God.
You literally haven't said anything. I can have a concept of a fire-breathing dragon, that doesn't mean that dragons necessarily exist.