Evidence God Exists: Part II

[Thor]

Well, seeing as you are human, you exist on this plain and if you had that power, you'd be something of a hero, I'd definitely expect you to do something to save my child.

But you don't expect your "all-loving" and "all-powerful" deity to do the same? Maybe if I save your child's life I am somehow going against this deity's "plan".

No, you'd pretty much be a dick. You aren't even going to explain yourself? You're such an asshole.

And, again, your deity gets a pass?

Actually, other than the 'stupid' part, that's pretty much it. You know, you can label it 'rationalization' if you want, but there is still the implied rational in there.

Oh, come on! Like "rational" and "rationalize" mean the same thing?

But I'll tell you this. Someone who understands God has a much better chance of comprehending why that child died and why that child was taken to Heaven(bare with me here, for the sake of our discussion) than does an Atheist who not only doesn't know God, but doesn't understand Him in the slightest.

How can you "comprehend" a being you have never met, seen, or spoken with? Substitute "the Easter Bunny" for "God" in your above statement and it's equally valid.

Who's to say? Our souls(again, bare with me) know better than we do. You've no idea what decisions were made before your birth, supposing God exists, as do souls.

Our "souls"? What the hell is that? As far as I know, people do not have "souls". Unless you can present any evidence to prove me wrong.

No, because you're just stupid.

I'm not the one who believes in invisible deities.

Did I say the parent should do nothing for their child? No I did not.

But are we not "God's children"? Then why does he do nothing when they contract horrible diseases?

But a parent should definitely not be surprised when their child dies of a terminal illness.

Yeah... a TERMINAL ILLNESS that your deity could cure with a wave of his hand.

That's not to say they shouldn't be upset and mourn the child, but they should look at themselves and say 'What have I learned? What do I value more now than ever?'

If I walked up to parent who lost a child and sanctimoniously said, "Now what have you learned from your child's death? What do you value now more than ever?", I would expect to get a mouthful of fist.

And what does this mean anyway? That your deity allowed a child to suffer and die to "teach someone a lesson"? How incredibly cruel and immoral is that?

Perhaps that child isn't the one giving the lesson, but is the teacher...?

Oh, please. Gag me.

It's not for you or I to say.

I think I can say that what you're suggesting is complete twaddle.

A God who believes in free will?

What the hell does "free will" have to do with a child getting cancer?

Yeah! 'Cause fuck you, Nature! How dare I be born with brown hair! I want blonde hair! I'm going to whine and bitch about it when there's nothing I can do t- oh...there's this thing called hair dye? I can CHANGE MY HAIR COLOR?!

But yeah, still, fuck you Nature.

You don't get it, do you? We're not talking about NATURE! We're talking about your deity! A deity who can supposedly do anything. A deity who apparently chooses not to help children dying with a horrible disease. And being born with a certain hair color is not on the same level as getting cancer.

Do you understand where I am going with this?

Nope.

I'm not saying it isn't very sad that Billy has cancer. But I'm saying he, and his family, should make the most of what they've got. Instead of complaining that nature did what comes natural to it.

And, again, nature has nothing to do with this discussion. Let's say "nature" gave the kid cancer. Your deity can cure it in an instant! Why does he not?

Oh for fuck's sake. It's very sad that those people have to live in trailers, yes. But, again, should they blame Mother Nature and the EARTH ITSELF for their bad mood about it?

Where did I say anything about blaming "Mother Nature" and "the Earth"? I'm talking about your deity doing nothing to prevent devestating natural disasters. Again, if I had the power to prevent a hurricane from striking a populated area and I did nothing, I would be despised and villified. But you give your deity a pass. You simply spout platitudes like, "We can't understand why God does what he does". BULLSHIT! If this deity came down from the skies and explained why he allowed children to suffer with cancer, or why he did nothing to prevent natural disasters, we would certainly be capable of understanding it.