RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 17, 2014 at 2:08 pm
(This post was last modified: June 17, 2014 at 2:46 pm by Muslim Atheism.)
(June 17, 2014 at 11:20 am)muslimatheism Wrote: Can you please prove to me with verses from the Quran ?
Do you wish to leave the issue of whether Allah commands kidnapping of innocent girl?
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(June 17, 2014 at 1:25 pm)Ksa Wrote: I don't understand your argument...are you saying a Muslim should not have more than one wife?
The Quran is like a statutory law . . with general rules, exceptions, and illustrations etc.
One must read the whole Quran and understand the legal framework of the Quran through the principles of logic.
The main point is they can marry more than one, ie. upon compliance with all the exceptions in verse 4:24.
The rule is very clear.
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General rule: One wife (33.50) and polygamy is unjust (4.129)
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Polygamy is unjust.
And you will never be able to be equal between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. (4.129)
ie. no matter what they did, polygamy is unjust. This is the main principle.
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General rule: One wife.
O Prophet (ie. addressing to the Prophet only)
indeed We have made lawful to you (vs. it is unlawful to other than the Prophet)
your wives ( أَزْوَاجَكَ ) (ie. plural. . . more than one, if it is more than one wife, then this rule shall apply)
(1) to whom you have given their due compensation (exception to the Believers, refer verse 4.24)
AND (وَ) (ie. "AND", meaning it is the continuance of matters that are only allowed to the Prophet)
(2) those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] (exception to the Believers, refer verse 4:25-26)
AND (وَ)
(3) the daughters of your paternal uncles
AND (وَ)
(4) the daughters of your paternal aunts
AND (وَ)
(5) the daughters of your maternal uncles
AND (وَ)
(6) the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you
AND (وَ)
(7) a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her
ONLY FOR YOU
EXCLUDING THE BELIEVERS
(33.50)
Seven items that are made lawful only to Prophet Muhammad...
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Exception: 4.24, and the reinstatement of "one wife" in 33.50
IF, THEN, ELSE statement from wording of the verse itself.
AND
IF you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, (conditions)
THEN marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. (exceptions)
BUT IF you fear that you will not be just, (conditions)
THEN [marry only] ONE or those your right hand possesses. (reinstatement of the general rule of one wife in 33.50, "ONE WIFE")
That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
[END IF]
(4.3)
Therefore, if they cannot fulfil the above conditions. . .
(June 17, 2014 at 11:54 am)muslimatheism Wrote: Condition: Cannot marry more than one if they fear of injustice to wives, even if it is for the benefit of the orphan girls (4:24) and (4:129).
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(June 17, 2014 at 1:25 pm)Ksa Wrote: Are you on some sort of substance? That verse says that you indeed can marry a believing slave girl.:
Who says they cannot marry a believing slave girl ?
This is the condition for marrying a believing slave girl.
AND whoever among you cannot [find] the means to marry free, believing women,
THEN [he may marry] from those whom your right hands possess of believing slave girls.
4.29
and there are other conditions that must be fulfilled.
(June 17, 2014 at 11:54 am)muslimatheism Wrote: General rule: It is prohibited to marry a believing slave girl (33.50)
. . . [this is] only for you, excluding the believers. (33.50)
Exception: It is allowed upon compliance all the conditions in verse 4:25-26 (refer here).
Conditions: Must fulfil all the conditions, otherwise cannot marry slave girl.
1. This exception is for those who cannot find the means to marry free, believing women
2. This exception is for those who fears of committing sin (but to be patient is better for them)
3. One must marry that girl
4. One must get the permission from their people
5. One must give them their due compensation
6. One must compensate them according to what is acceptable by them
7. They should be chaste
8. They should not of those who commit unlawful intercourse randomly
9. They should not of those who take secret lovers
10. She must be from his right hands possess