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Believers!! Don't mislead people
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
(June 18, 2014 at 10:47 am)Brian37 Wrote: If that book were harmless like you stupidly want to think, you would not have a infestation of sexism in the Middle east, you would not have Sunnis and Shiites murdering each other for that matter. They get their morality from the same book reading the exact same words.

No . . today's Muslim don't study and follow the Quran
They follow the Persian hadiths and scholars. . .

They don't follow the rules of Usul al Fiqh

The Quran is not even a syllabus in the Islamic Institution
Quote:It is curious to note that the study of the Quran is not included in the curriculum. A certain exegesis (Jilalain) is taught that consists of only synonyms of the Quranic words. In the last year of study an exegesis of the second chapter of the Quran is taught (Bazadi). This is the education upon completion of which they receive certification for becoming an aalim (knowledgeable person); The Ulema—Who Are They?

They misunderstood the true language of the Quran, ie. the Quraish dialects (refer here)
Quote:The First Dilemma: While the language of the Qur’an remained untouched, its words and terms were made to lose the splendor they so beautifully conveyed in the original, revealed Arabic Mubeen. So much so, that the Qur’anic terms were dressed up with the erroneous philosophies prevalent in the once Zoroastrian culture of Persia, and they became widely accepted even among the Arabs! This staggering tragedy explains why, how and where, even the Arabic speaking people lose their touch with the Qur’an!

. . .

Now The Third Dilemma: The later generations of translators and commentators have uncritically followed the men of old and this tendency has been consistently taking its noxious toll. They have been thinking of the Ajami Arabic as the known Language of the Qur’an. By Ajami Arabic I mean applying the Zoro-Persian or any alien concepts to the Arabic words and terms of the Qur’an.

The history in the Quran repeated itself. . .
and Allah already mentioned about this in the Quran
Quote: And that Day the wrongdoer will bite on his hand and say:
“I wish I had taken the path with the messenger!”
“Woe to me, I wish I did not take so and so as a friend!”
“He has misguided me from the remembrance after it came to me,
and the devil was always a betrayer of mankind!”

And the messenger (Muhammad) said:
“My Lord, my people have deserted this Qur’an.”
25.27-30

So it is not surprising at all.
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Believers!! Don't mislead people - by ska88 - June 17, 2014 at 4:00 am
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people - by Ksa - June 17, 2014 at 8:18 am
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RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people - by Brian37 - June 17, 2014 at 10:55 am
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