RE: Believers!! Don't mislead people
June 22, 2014 at 9:58 am
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2014 at 11:18 am by Muslim Atheism.)
(June 22, 2014 at 9:51 am)LostLocke Wrote: "Is there a house?"
House is the subject. What's the problem?
There is no logical issue here.
You don't have the "subject matter", therefore, there is no "possibility". . .
What is you are "denying" or "confirming" ?
None. . no issue, no possibility, no nothing. . no one can engage in a rational conversation with you . . .and you should only be silent and not thinking at all. Be invisible.

(June 22, 2014 at 9:58 am)Bibliofagus Wrote: And I have another question: You seem to be saying that allah is not god and that it is impossible to know what he is. Which basically means you have an agnostic position on the exact charateristics of allah.
So my question is: could allah in actuality have the characteristics of let's say a bike? Or a pile of shit? Could allah be a unicorn?
Not really like the agnostic , I believe in the Quran and the system, ie. the Deen of Islam.
Secondly, it doesn't matter what characteristic of Allah. Allah commands to ignore "mutasyaabihat" (allegorical) and that need interpretation. Those terms is in the Quran for the hypocrites and the disbelievers, to misled these peoples, yes, the Quran misled people. They like to discuss those issue, and I called it "nonsense", because it is futile to discuss something that the Quran says "no one knows its interpretation".
Quote:He it is who has bestowed upon thee from on high this divine writ,
containing messages that are clear in and by themselves
and these are the essence of the divine writ (the focus of muslim)
as well as others that are allegorical (focus of the hypocrites and disbelievers)
Now those whose hearts are given to swerving from the truth
go after that part of the divine writ which has been expressed in allegory
seeking out [what is bound to create] confusion
and seeking [to arrive at] its final meaning [in an arbitrary manner]
but none save God knows its final meaning.
Hence, those who are deeply rooted in knowledge say:
"We believe in it (the book); the whole [of the divine writ] is from our Sustainer
albeit none takes this (remider) to heart save those who are endowed with insight.
(3.7)
The Quran is about the "Deen", about the practical life and not about some illusion of hell, paradise, Allah, angels, satan etc. It is not the "Deen", it is "nonsense", ie. discussing something that the Quran says "no one know its interpretation". It will create distress in the society, division, and defeat the main purpose for unity within diversity.