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No True Scotsman
RE: No True Scotsman
(June 22, 2014 at 12:58 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: No. You are using the no true scotsman fallacy when applied to a true christian. There is no consistent definition of a true christian. Even if we use a definition like: 'one who follows jesus teachings' there are 4000 different denominations of christianity with 4000 different views on what jesus teachings are. Which denomination is the true one? Is it yours? We have no way of knowing.

There's no way that Jesus' teachings can be interpreted as committing the atrocities that Christianity has been accused of. I don't care what denomination it is. I guess anybody could take anything and interpret it in a convoluted way.

(June 22, 2014 at 1:13 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:
(June 19, 2014 at 12:15 pm)Lek Wrote: if a nation or individual is truly following the teachings of Jesus Christ would they have committed those atrocities?

Yes.

What theists view as moral tends to be highly immoral. Just because one attaches the concept of Jesus to an act does not automatically make that act moral.

When others suffer due to theistic acts in the name of god, then clearly the theist has a skewed comprehension of what it means to both be human and good.

Did Jesus teach that it was right to murder or mistreat people?
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No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by LostLocke - June 19, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Losty - June 20, 2014 at 6:46 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Minimalist - June 19, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by downbeatplumb - June 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 19, 2014 at 1:46 pm
No True Scotsman - by Bibliofagus - June 19, 2014 at 12:35 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Esquilax - June 19, 2014 at 2:09 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by ShaMan - June 19, 2014 at 4:10 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 19, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Esquilax - June 19, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 5:00 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 19, 2014 at 5:03 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Esquilax - June 20, 2014 at 6:34 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 5:03 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 19, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 19, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 19, 2014 at 12:41 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 19, 2014 at 12:59 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 19, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Thackerie - June 22, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm
No True Scotsman - by Bibliofagus - June 19, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 19, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 19, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 1:02 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 19, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by LastPoet - June 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm
No True Scotsman - by Bibliofagus - June 19, 2014 at 1:03 pm
No True Scotsman - by Bibliofagus - June 19, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 19, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 19, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 19, 2014 at 1:39 pm
No True Scotsman - by Bibliofagus - June 19, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 19, 2014 at 1:47 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Strongbad - June 19, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by DeistPaladin - June 19, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 19, 2014 at 2:11 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by DeistPaladin - June 19, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 19, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by DeistPaladin - June 19, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Minimalist - June 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm
No True Scotsman - by Bibliofagus - June 19, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 19, 2014 at 2:03 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Tonus - June 19, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 19, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Tonus - June 19, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 4:10 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 19, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by DeistPaladin - June 19, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 19, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Tonus - June 20, 2014 at 5:57 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Minimalist - June 19, 2014 at 3:52 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 19, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 19, 2014 at 4:21 pm
No True Scotsman - by Bibliofagus - June 19, 2014 at 4:21 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 19, 2014 at 5:21 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 19, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 20, 2014 at 3:10 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 20, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 20, 2014 at 8:33 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Esquilax - June 21, 2014 at 1:49 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 20, 2014 at 6:03 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Minimalist - June 19, 2014 at 5:58 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by jesus_wept - June 20, 2014 at 4:50 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 20, 2014 at 5:52 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by jesus_wept - June 20, 2014 at 7:41 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 20, 2014 at 9:11 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by jesus_wept - June 20, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Minimalist - June 20, 2014 at 12:12 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Mudhammam - June 20, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by jesus_wept - June 21, 2014 at 4:02 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 20, 2014 at 8:26 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Writer - June 20, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Tiberius - June 20, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 20, 2014 at 8:43 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Tiberius - June 20, 2014 at 8:52 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 20, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Mudhammam - June 20, 2014 at 11:38 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by DeistPaladin - June 21, 2014 at 1:15 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Minimalist - June 22, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 22, 2014 at 5:04 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Mudhammam - June 23, 2014 at 5:34 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Minimalist - June 23, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by SteelCurtain - June 20, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by max-greece - June 21, 2014 at 5:51 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by ronedee - June 22, 2014 at 3:11 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 22, 2014 at 6:58 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by max-greece - June 22, 2014 at 8:58 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Ryantology - June 22, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Ryantology - June 21, 2014 at 7:12 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 22, 2014 at 2:08 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 22, 2014 at 12:22 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by ignoramus - June 22, 2014 at 2:15 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by rexbeccarox - June 22, 2014 at 4:51 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 22, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 22, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Silver - June 22, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 22, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 22, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 22, 2014 at 4:23 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Wolf - June 22, 2014 at 5:39 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 22, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by DeistPaladin - June 22, 2014 at 3:07 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 22, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Tonus - June 23, 2014 at 6:09 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Silver - June 22, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by max-greece - June 22, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by ThomM - June 22, 2014 at 7:27 pm
No True Scotsman - by Bibliofagus - June 23, 2014 at 10:03 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 23, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Mudhammam - June 23, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 6:02 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Cato - June 24, 2014 at 6:09 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 7:00 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Hoopington - June 24, 2014 at 7:10 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 7:15 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Hoopington - June 24, 2014 at 8:50 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Writer - June 24, 2014 at 9:07 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Tonus - June 24, 2014 at 8:34 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Tonus - June 24, 2014 at 6:43 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 24, 2014 at 9:36 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by max-greece - June 24, 2014 at 6:55 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Writer - June 24, 2014 at 7:17 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 7:30 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Writer - June 24, 2014 at 7:59 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 8:22 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Bad Writer - June 24, 2014 at 8:41 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 8:42 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Tonus - June 24, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 8:58 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Hoopington - June 24, 2014 at 9:00 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 9:25 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Hoopington - June 24, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by Grandizer - June 24, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by DeistPaladin - June 24, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Lek - June 24, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 24, 2014 at 10:09 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by Chad32 - June 24, 2014 at 12:35 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by The Grand Nudger - June 24, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: No True Scotsman - by The Grand Nudger - June 24, 2014 at 12:50 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by The Grand Nudger - June 24, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: No True Scotsman - by The Grand Nudger - June 24, 2014 at 3:58 pm

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