(June 22, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Lek Wrote:(June 22, 2014 at 12:58 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: No. You are using the no true scotsman fallacy when applied to a true christian. There is no consistent definition of a true christian. Even if we use a definition like: 'one who follows jesus teachings' there are 4000 different denominations of christianity with 4000 different views on what jesus teachings are. Which denomination is the true one? Is it yours? We have no way of knowing.
There's no way that Jesus' teachings can be interpreted as committing the atrocities that Christianity has been accused of. I don't care what denomination it is. I guess anybody could take anything and interpret it in a convoluted way.
(June 22, 2014 at 1:13 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Yes.
What theists view as moral tends to be highly immoral. Just because one attaches the concept of Jesus to an act does not automatically make that act moral.
When others suffer due to theistic acts in the name of god, then clearly the theist has a skewed comprehension of what it means to both be human and good.
Did Jesus teach that it was right to murder or mistreat people?
I will admit that Jesus didn't do as many horrible things as Yahweh did, unless you think those two are the same person, but even if Jesus is a different person he still worshiped Yahweh. Who is an obviously evil person to anyone who doesn't worship him.
The actions of Jesus kind of lose some of their credit when he unapologetically worships the guy from the old testament. Even if you ignore things like commanding people to put him above everyone else, anf giving away all possessions to follow him. Neither of which are very good ideas coming from a guy who died and disappeared a year or so after he started teaching things that have been taught by people before his time.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html