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No True Scotsman

Mudhammam Offline

Disciple of Nature

Religious Views: anti-theist (towards 98.5% of deities)

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RE: No True Scotsman

June 23, 2014 at 7:03 pm (This post was last modified: June 23, 2014 at 7:06 pm by Mudhammam.)

(June 23, 2014 at 6:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No, Christianity starts from the premise that human motives can be self destructive. It aims to free you from those so that you can live the most productive life possible.

Frodo, if that's what Christianity taught, who would disagree? You make it sound like any sensible self-help program. But c'mon, we both know that's not what it teaches.

Why are human motives sometimes self-destructive? An intelligent question which Christianity gets wrong (though I don't blame it, nobody understand human psychology in the first century).

How can a person be freed from their vices and overcome their shortcomings? Again, intelligent questions with no single or simple solution, which also again, Christianity gets PROFOUNDLY wrong.

He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza

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