RE: The Almighty US Government
June 26, 2014 at 7:49 pm
(This post was last modified: June 26, 2014 at 7:50 pm by Cinjin.)
(June 26, 2014 at 3:21 pm)Isun Wrote: Personally I think it is the voter that is the problem. Chief among them are the one issue voters and those that are uninformed which unfortunately today is the republican party.
We have a system that depends on trying to elect the lesser evil. We have a corrupt judicial system that vote primarily party instead of law. AT the state level it is even worse when a judge is recalled not because he interpreted the law incorrectly but because the narrow minded ignorant are upset at the law and wanted a activist for a judge (teaparty) instead of changing the law. We have a supreme court that thinks that money isn't corrupting (how stupid can you get).
I don't have any illusions that democrats are less corrupt or potentially corrupt, but a lot of time it has to do with who is in power. Today the republican party is solidly corrupt while the democrats have to appear to support populism to try to get elected. They at least admit that science is science while creationism is ignorance. They admit that science knows more about climate than the koch brothers. They admit that jobs are created by supply and demand, and not based on how much money the rich have.
Painting the democrats as somehow better than the Republicans is your own bias. I ascribe to neither, but even lean towards the democratic side, but I'm still not going to give them even an ounce of moral superiority.
Quote:So ultimately, it isn't government that is the problem, it is the voter that is the problem in my opinion.
Preposterous. Utterly preposterous. The idea of "voting the bums out" is pure naivete. You don't vote out a corrupt system and even you admit that it IS the fault of a government that is bought and paid for by the rich:
Isun Forgot that he Wrote:The problem is unfortunately going to be very difficult to deal with because of the corruption in both congress and the supreme court. Where money rules instead of the people.
Yes, at least half of the American people are stupid as holy fuck and they will never pull the blindfold from their collective eyes, but saying that all we need to do is learn how to vote and that the blame rests on the American people is bull shit. Newsflash: I don't get to vote for the things I want to vote for. Nobody asked me if I wanted to send troops into Afghanistan or how I felt about this new fucked up health care system that is a giant scam to make the rich even richer.
Quote:To solve the problem, we have to make it so that special interests and lobbyists don't control congress and that means taking money out of running for office.
This I agree with .... but how pray tell, is that the fault of the American voter? You want to accomplish this simply by correcting the way we vote? See how ubsurd your notion is. Criminals (and that's what we have in office) don't just hand over billions of dollars because some voters told them to.
Quote:It won't happen until we get a "real" court, but that won't happen if people don't educate themselves on the issue instead of on "abortion" or "appearance" of being a christian.
What "court" are you talking about???? Exactly what does this even mean???
Ridiculous - the idea that the American voter just needs to learn how to vote and the government isn't to blame for its own actions. Stupid. Just a stupid notion.