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Which was first: Atheism or Religion?
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RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion?
It doesn't really matter how he knows, if he knows, if it can be known, or if there's anything to know. In the context of a proposition any permutation of the above could simply be examined for what it is, an empirical claim. If he wants a to be metaphoric/allegoric/wafflist/what have you and b to be literal, then fine, we'll address b, or vv. If somebody wants the whole thing to be mild allegory then fine - we'd still be making an empirical claim about the effectiveness and applicability of the allegory to our empirical dataset (our senses and experience).

Obviously, I'm of the opinion that people who think they've managed to imagine a concept immune to empiricism just haven;t thought their position out that well. Can't really call it malicious or even intentional. Why would we, creatures so adapted to and well equipped for empiricism have any talent for imagining the unimpeachable? We wouldn't. I don't think Frodo has managed to crack that nut any more than the rest of us.
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RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 26, 2014 at 1:48 am
Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Rampant.A.I. - June 26, 2014 at 2:01 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Silver - June 26, 2014 at 2:37 am
Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Rampant.A.I. - June 26, 2014 at 3:07 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 3:51 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by bennyboy - June 26, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 4:18 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 26, 2014 at 4:23 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 5:09 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Tonus - June 26, 2014 at 5:56 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by LastPoet - June 26, 2014 at 4:51 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 4:47 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 26, 2014 at 4:58 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Bad Wolf - June 26, 2014 at 5:30 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 4:55 pm
Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Rampant.A.I. - June 26, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by pocaracas - June 26, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 12:08 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Grandizer - June 26, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Brian37 - June 26, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Angrboda - June 26, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 2:24 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Bad Wolf - June 26, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 5:59 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Bad Wolf - June 26, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 6:33 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 2:50 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 6:35 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Mystical - June 26, 2014 at 10:12 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cato - June 26, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Chad32 - June 26, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by bennyboy - June 26, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Mystical - June 26, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by ShaMan - June 27, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by ShaMan - June 27, 2014 at 2:44 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cato - June 27, 2014 at 8:44 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 8:19 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 8:53 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 9:31 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Chad32 - June 27, 2014 at 9:35 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cyberman - June 28, 2014 at 12:12 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by bennyboy - June 28, 2014 at 2:51 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 28, 2014 at 5:18 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 28, 2014 at 7:02 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Bad Wolf - June 28, 2014 at 7:08 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Bad Wolf - June 28, 2014 at 7:22 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Tonus - June 28, 2014 at 7:17 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 28, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 28, 2014 at 8:56 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Grandizer - June 27, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 27, 2014 at 8:52 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 9:47 am
Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Rampant.A.I. - June 27, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by LostLocke - June 27, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Mystical - June 27, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Angrboda - June 27, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Grandizer - June 27, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 28, 2014 at 5:24 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cyberman - June 28, 2014 at 8:19 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Grandizer - June 28, 2014 at 11:44 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Tonus - June 29, 2014 at 8:43 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Dystopia - June 28, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cyberman - June 28, 2014 at 9:43 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Dystopia - June 28, 2014 at 9:48 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cyberman - June 28, 2014 at 9:53 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cyberman - June 29, 2014 at 11:11 am

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