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Which was first: Atheism or Religion?
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RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion?
(June 27, 2014 at 8:53 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Rhythm

empirical
ɛmˈpɪrɪk(ə)l,ɪm-/Submit
adjective
based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic.
"they provided considerable empirical evidence to support their argument"

I use the term from Dawkins use regarding this subject. I guess you're saying that he got it wrong.

Verifiable : sure. Every Christian verifies the experience of the rest. Independently verifiable to non believers : no.

Unless you're taking about something else?
Whether or not someone else, any old boogeyman you choose, used the word correctly or incorrectly is irrelevant. As per the definition you linked, are we willing to move forward with the proposition that you (and others) have (-and therefore that there can be-) empirical evidence of the supernatural? Have we resolved the issue of which side of your claim your position actually lies upon?

(For bonus points, perhaps you could explain this mysterious barrier to verification that is not present in yourself or other believers but that -is- present in myself and other non-believers; since that's a conveniently empirical claim some demonstration of it's veracity ought to be forthcoming?)
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RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 26, 2014 at 1:48 am
Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Rampant.A.I. - June 26, 2014 at 2:01 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Silver - June 26, 2014 at 2:37 am
Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Rampant.A.I. - June 26, 2014 at 3:07 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 3:51 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by bennyboy - June 26, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 4:18 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 26, 2014 at 4:23 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 5:09 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Tonus - June 26, 2014 at 5:56 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by LastPoet - June 26, 2014 at 4:51 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 4:47 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 26, 2014 at 4:58 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Bad Wolf - June 26, 2014 at 5:30 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 4:55 pm
Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Rampant.A.I. - June 26, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by pocaracas - June 26, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 12:08 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Grandizer - June 26, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Brian37 - June 26, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Angrboda - June 26, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 2:24 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Bad Wolf - June 26, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 5:59 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Bad Wolf - June 26, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 6:33 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 2:50 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 6:35 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Mystical - June 26, 2014 at 10:12 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cato - June 26, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Chad32 - June 26, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by bennyboy - June 26, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Mystical - June 26, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by ShaMan - June 27, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by ShaMan - June 27, 2014 at 2:44 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cato - June 27, 2014 at 8:44 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 8:19 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 8:53 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 9:31 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Chad32 - June 27, 2014 at 9:35 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cyberman - June 28, 2014 at 12:12 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by bennyboy - June 28, 2014 at 2:51 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 28, 2014 at 5:18 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 28, 2014 at 7:02 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Bad Wolf - June 28, 2014 at 7:08 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Bad Wolf - June 28, 2014 at 7:22 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Tonus - June 28, 2014 at 7:17 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 28, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Esquilax - June 28, 2014 at 8:56 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Grandizer - June 27, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 9:47 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 27, 2014 at 10:21 am
Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Rampant.A.I. - June 27, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by LostLocke - June 27, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Mystical - June 27, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Angrboda - June 27, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Grandizer - June 27, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by fr0d0 - June 28, 2014 at 5:24 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cyberman - June 28, 2014 at 8:19 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Grandizer - June 28, 2014 at 11:44 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Tonus - June 29, 2014 at 8:43 am
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Dystopia - June 28, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cyberman - June 28, 2014 at 9:43 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Dystopia - June 28, 2014 at 9:48 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cyberman - June 28, 2014 at 9:53 pm
RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion? - by Cyberman - June 29, 2014 at 11:11 am

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