RE: Which was first: Atheism or Religion?
June 28, 2014 at 1:24 am
(This post was last modified: June 28, 2014 at 1:27 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 27, 2014 at 6:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The barrier is in your mind. We can believe intellectually by the power of deduction.It shouldn't be too difficult to demonstrate that believers have greater deductive abilities (or more accurate deductive results) than non-believers Frodo.
Quote: You've seen how it works so don't go acting dumb on me now. The rewards of belief are evident. Here's the tricky bit, be sure to concentrate..... to a non believer those effects can be explained away. Look on these forums for more reasons to disbelieve your own existence, let alone a supernatural entity.To be completely honest - I've never "seen how it works", all I've seen is you and others claim that it does, has, and can work. Rewards are irrelevant and certainly not evident until such time as you make them so. Anything can be explained away, sure. That doesn't mean that the explanation is inaccurate in any particular case.
This is practical, physical proof. Nothing supernatural at all. Yet it it's proof of the supernatural, via testing of biblical premise. Nothing magical. Purely natural.
It may be practical (I wouldn't know) but it certainly isn't proof. This is your empirical evidence of the supernatural? Essentially, that you believe in it? That you can concentrate so hard that you cease to be able to explain things away? Things that other people seem to have no issue explaining without invoking a god?
Do you step out of your door to the sight of floating passenger vehicles? Do birds suddenly appear...every time you walk near? Does your floor sweep itself?
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