RE: Do Christians really believe most of us are going to hell?
June 30, 2014 at 10:52 am
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2014 at 10:58 am by GrandizerII.)
(June 30, 2014 at 10:31 am)Jenny A Wrote: But some of them think so, and are troubled by it.
This is the subset I'm most interested about. If they are troubled by this, why aren't they putting in much more effort than they are now to try to save us from the danger that supposedly is coming?
(June 30, 2014 at 10:52 am)Rhythm Wrote:(June 30, 2014 at 10:45 am)Irrational Wrote: That depends on what you mean by "they". The authors of the Synoptic Gospels? Or the followers of Jesus in the Synoptic Gospels?See what I mean, always refers to god. There's no christ, no messiah, no annointed one - without divinity, without the origin of the message, without the annointer. No one who uses these terms can do so accurately, while leaving out god. God is embedded.
Before Jesus' death, I doubt his followers saw him as some god. They saw him as the Messiah rather, which is where the term Christ comes from. So nothing beyond a great prophet or king chosen by God to save the Jews from the Romans.
That is a condition you have chosen to set. Some will disagree and think an individual who identifies themself as a follower of Christ is a Christian regardless of what they believe being the Christ must entail. Maybe they see Messiah as being figuratively anointed by God.
Since Christian atheism seems to be a serious group, and they prefer to be called Christians, whatever. Let them have that label. It's not like other Christians deserve it better than them.


